Thread: I Don't Think Magnets Support Our Troops

Originally Posted by icedog

I think we are on the same page Michael. I keep my support very personal and direct. I donate comfort items to be sent in packages overseas. I pressure my congressman to bring an end to our involvement in Iraq. Most importantly, when I run into men or women who are in the military, I shake their hand and thank them for their courage and dedication, regardless of my political view of the war(s).

Too many people put these magnets (that were printed in Taiwan) on their car or truck and feel, "There, I'm a patriotic American. I'm supporting our troops now."

As far as I know, there's one group from some F'd up church in Kansas that is protesting at funerals. They are saying the the war is God's punishment for homosexuals in America. I saw a documentary on them but I can't remember the pastor's name but I do remember seven year old kids holding signs that read, "God Hates Fags." Somebody help me what's that asshole's name?

Fred Phelps, may he die of the most painful cancer there is. Few people on this earth deserve as much hatred and pain as this piece of crap.

I think had the magnets been done in a way that all money made from them went to care packages and such they would mean more. Although they wouldn't be the same as the ones i sent to a buddy (porn and beef jerky) man he loved those.

the name of the church is the westboro baptist church and they are some sick minded people

icedog's point is very important because we need to treat each other with respect, especially when we disagree about the issues. I was strongly opposed to the war in Vietnam but I never thought to insult a solider because, by serving, by putting his money where his mouth was, he had earned the right to my respect. For me, the only honest, legal and moral way to oppose the war was to go to the draft board and apply for Conscientious Objector status. I did two years of alternative service in a mental hospital.

I never had any problem giving my respect to those who serve in the armed forces, even though I refused. A healthy society needs people who have the courage to fight to defend it. On the other hand, a healthy society also needs people who have the courage to say, "No, this war is wrong." The problem with the Vietnam war was that it had absolutely nothing to do with defending the United States.

Originally Posted by Chimensch

by putting his money where his mouth was, he had earned the right to my respect.

It's even worse. A soldier puts his money where his CICs mouth is. And that is why I can support the soldiers and oppose the war at the same time without a problem. It's not the soldiers' fault that there is a war. And they didn't decide to go to war.

Originally Posted by Bruno

It's even worse. A soldier puts his money where his CICs mouth is. And that is why I can support the soldiers and oppose the war at the same time without a problem. It's not the soldiers' fault that there is a war. And they didn't decide to go to war.

Well said. But remember war = job security for me.

Originally Posted by M1ke

Well said. But remember war = job security for me.

That's why lack of war is good - good competition is of essence for a working free market.

..."But your flag decal won't get you
into heaven anymore.
They're already over crowded
with your dirty little war,
and Jesus don't like killin'
no matter what the reason for,
And your flag decal won't get you
into heaven anymore."

JP

Originally Posted by M1ke

Well said. But remember war = job security for me.

M1ke,

How's that? You just said you were a lifer in the active military. I didn't know any branch of the U.S. Armed forces has ever had a lay off when things get slow. I know that advancement becomes tougher based on "billet concentration and requirements" but why do you say that war is your job security? Now if you were a civilian working for a defence contractor I could see your point.

So what branch are you in?

Brad

..."well I didn't mess around a bit,
I took him up on what he said.
I slapped them stickers all over my car,
and one on my wifes forehead"...


JP

Originally Posted by icedog

M1ke,

How's that? You just said you were a lifer in the active military. I didn't know any branch of the U.S. Armed forces has ever had a lay off when things get slow. I know that advancement becomes tougher based on "billet concentration and requirements" but why do you say that war is your job security? Now if you were a civilian working for a defence contractor I could see your point.

So what branch are you in?

Brad

It was more of a joke. And yes the military does lay off people. They have alot of names for it, one would be "Force Shaping" when they recruit to many..also if you are attempting to reenlist you have to go through and basically apply to keep your job. only the most qualified and best rated gets to reenlist. If you don't get chosen you dont get to reenlist. If there is war and they need more people.......