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icedog I Don't Think Magnets Support... 02-03-2009, 01:59 AM
Mike7120 There are undoubtedly many... 02-03-2009, 03:28 AM
M1ke Im active duty and agree with... 02-03-2009, 04:00 AM
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M1ke The guy at mcdonalds gets up... 02-03-2009, 04:19 AM
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Bruno It's even worse. A soldier... 02-03-2009, 07:51 AM
M1ke Well said. But remember war =... 02-03-2009, 08:03 AM
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    I think had the magnets been done in a way that all money made from them went to care packages and such they would mean more. Although they wouldn't be the same as the ones i sent to a buddy (porn and beef jerky) man he loved those.

    the name of the church is the westboro baptist church and they are some sick minded people

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    icedog's point is very important because we need to treat each other with respect, especially when we disagree about the issues. I was strongly opposed to the war in Vietnam but I never thought to insult a solider because, by serving, by putting his money where his mouth was, he had earned the right to my respect. For me, the only honest, legal and moral way to oppose the war was to go to the draft board and apply for Conscientious Objector status. I did two years of alternative service in a mental hospital.

    I never had any problem giving my respect to those who serve in the armed forces, even though I refused. A healthy society needs people who have the courage to fight to defend it. On the other hand, a healthy society also needs people who have the courage to say, "No, this war is wrong." The problem with the Vietnam war was that it had absolutely nothing to do with defending the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimensch View Post
    by putting his money where his mouth was, he had earned the right to my respect.
    It's even worse. A soldier puts his money where his CICs mouth is. And that is why I can support the soldiers and oppose the war at the same time without a problem. It's not the soldiers' fault that there is a war. And they didn't decide to go to war.
    Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    It's even worse. A soldier puts his money where his CICs mouth is. And that is why I can support the soldiers and oppose the war at the same time without a problem. It's not the soldiers' fault that there is a war. And they didn't decide to go to war.

    Well said. But remember war = job security for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1ke View Post
    Well said. But remember war = job security for me.
    That's why lack of war is good - good competition is of essence for a working free market.

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    ..."But your flag decal won't get you
    into heaven anymore.
    They're already over crowded
    with your dirty little war,
    and Jesus don't like killin'
    no matter what the reason for,
    And your flag decal won't get you
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1ke View Post
    Well said. But remember war = job security for me.
    M1ke,

    How's that? You just said you were a lifer in the active military. I didn't know any branch of the U.S. Armed forces has ever had a lay off when things get slow. I know that advancement becomes tougher based on "billet concentration and requirements" but why do you say that war is your job security? Now if you were a civilian working for a defence contractor I could see your point.

    So what branch are you in?

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    ..."well I didn't mess around a bit,
    I took him up on what he said.
    I slapped them stickers all over my car,
    and one on my wifes forehead"...


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    ..."But your flag decal won't get you
    into heaven anymore.
    They're already over crowded
    with your dirty little war,
    and Jesus don't like killin'
    no matter what the reason for,
    And your flag decal won't get you
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    I did 12 years in the Army. and this is what i realized while i was in. soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors alike, even if we don't believe in the fight we are in, will do our jobs to serve our country.

    Not because it's fun to shoot people
    Not because we have to or we get in trouble
    Not because we want high fives when we get back

    But because we all believe in the idea of a country where people are free to voice their opinions, choose their leaders, and lives their lives however they choose. We believe in that concept so much that we are willing to put our lives on the line to protect not only our country, but do it despite what the media says.

    somehow, i didn't go to afghanistan or iraq (pretty sure GOD had something to do with that), but i spoke with one of my buddies when he got back and he said the "good job" and the beer that his dad gave him when he got back was more than he needed to know he did the right thing.

    just remember, living your life for yourself is ordinary, the military is extra-ordinary.

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