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02-03-2009, 06:25 AM #1
I think had the magnets been done in a way that all money made from them went to care packages and such they would mean more. Although they wouldn't be the same as the ones i sent to a buddy (porn and beef jerky) man he loved those.
the name of the church is the westboro baptist church and they are some sick minded people
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02-03-2009, 07:33 AM #2
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Thanked: 271icedog's point is very important because we need to treat each other with respect, especially when we disagree about the issues. I was strongly opposed to the war in Vietnam but I never thought to insult a solider because, by serving, by putting his money where his mouth was, he had earned the right to my respect. For me, the only honest, legal and moral way to oppose the war was to go to the draft board and apply for Conscientious Objector status. I did two years of alternative service in a mental hospital.
I never had any problem giving my respect to those who serve in the armed forces, even though I refused. A healthy society needs people who have the courage to fight to defend it. On the other hand, a healthy society also needs people who have the courage to say, "No, this war is wrong." The problem with the Vietnam war was that it had absolutely nothing to do with defending the United States.
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icedog (02-03-2009)
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02-03-2009, 07:51 AM #3Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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02-03-2009, 08:03 AM #4
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02-03-2009, 09:06 AM #5
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02-03-2009, 09:28 AM #6
..."But your flag decal won't get you
into heaven anymore.
They're already over crowded
with your dirty little war,
and Jesus don't like killin'
no matter what the reason for,
And your flag decal won't get you
into heaven anymore."
JP
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02-03-2009, 09:52 AM #7
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Thanked: 586M1ke,
How's that? You just said you were a lifer in the active military. I didn't know any branch of the U.S. Armed forces has ever had a lay off when things get slow. I know that advancement becomes tougher based on "billet concentration and requirements" but why do you say that war is your job security? Now if you were a civilian working for a defence contractor I could see your point.
So what branch are you in?
Brad
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02-03-2009, 09:57 AM #8
..."well I didn't mess around a bit,
I took him up on what he said.
I slapped them stickers all over my car,
and one on my wifes forehead"...
JP
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02-03-2009, 10:12 AM #9
..."But your flag decal won't get you
into heaven anymore.
They're already over crowded
with your dirty little war,
and Jesus don't like killin'
no matter what the reason for,
And your flag decal won't get you
into heaven anymore."
JP
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02-04-2009, 04:17 AM #10
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Thanked: 17I did 12 years in the Army. and this is what i realized while i was in. soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors alike, even if we don't believe in the fight we are in, will do our jobs to serve our country.
Not because it's fun to shoot people
Not because we have to or we get in trouble
Not because we want high fives when we get back
But because we all believe in the idea of a country where people are free to voice their opinions, choose their leaders, and lives their lives however they choose. We believe in that concept so much that we are willing to put our lives on the line to protect not only our country, but do it despite what the media says.
somehow, i didn't go to afghanistan or iraq (pretty sure GOD had something to do with that), but i spoke with one of my buddies when he got back and he said the "good job" and the beer that his dad gave him when he got back was more than he needed to know he did the right thing.
just remember, living your life for yourself is ordinary, the military is extra-ordinary.
essayons
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