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    Avoid Southern California. Based on your requirements, I can tell you you won't be happy here.



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    I vote for Missouri. I like mid Missouri for the quietness and very reasonable cost of living but if you need nightlife you have St. Louis on the east and Kansas City on the west but with larger city's you have more crime, traffic and people. In my town we have nightlife. Our bar stays open till midnight and we have a WalMart that stays open till 10PM. Jessie James went to Church about two miles from where I live. This is a right to carry state so you will feel safer in McDonald's and Wendy's.

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    If I where to move to the US (which is not going to happen in this lifetime, I love the things people complain about in my country too much. I would happely go to San Fransisco..or a small town nearby.
    I've vissited the US quite a few times for work. I've been to Florida, California, Illinois and Wisconsin. So i've covered no where near all the states....

    My ranking would be...
    California(love the climate, love San Fransisco, love Yosimity),
    Wisconsin (probably because its crowded with cheeseheads, good beer and tons of snow)
    Illinois(love Chicago)
    Florida (Senior citizens and aligators... is there a connection)

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    Come back to Europe.

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    I live in a small town in the mountains in northern California, I'd highly suggest staying away from it. High crime rate(a lot of meth and gang run off from souther California). But Oregon pretty much meats all of your criteria, all the cities there have small mountain towns surrounding them, plus most of the state has pretty well defined seasons(my only issue with Oregon is you can't pump your own gas, which is a pretty inconsiquential annoyance).

    San Francisco is epic, but the cost of living IN San Francisco is through the roof, and you DON'T want to live near San Francisco(trust me). Other than that, northern California has a lot of "great places for tourism" but if you've lived in Florida long enough I'm sure you know what it's like to live in these places...
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    I like it here in New England. Distinct seasons, but the winters are not that bad compared to other places. Especially here in CT. The population density here is quite low. You can live in the sticks and be as isolated as you want, or along the shore. I live close to Yale University, so there's lots of you people, restaurants, bars etc. Wesleyan Unversity is also closeby, for the liberal arts scene. It's a short drive or train ride to New York or Boston if you have more time to spend. The public schools are among the highest ranked in the nation. If you want private schools, lots of that too. Cost of living is higher than many places mentioned, but lower than most of the big cities.

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    Agree with Don. Ashville NC is a great place to live. Might want to look at Raleigh NC also?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwaplat View Post
    Come back to Europe.
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    the four distinct seasons and mild winters is a bit complicating as those don't tend to go together. But Seattle/Portland probably can accomodate that. If you accept the rough winters, Pittsburgh is actually very nice - great midwest style friendly, real people. Great schools in the surrounding burbs and in parts of the city (Squirrel Hill). Great but small for a city Jewish community, particularly in Squirrell Hill. Two ski resorts an hour outside the city. Gorgeous hilly/forested countryside. Very close to Hidden Valley and OhioPyle park. If you live in squirrell hill, an "expensive" part of the city, you are minutes from Oakland (UPitt and CMU), so that's your liberal arts/restaurant scene.

    You might look at Vancouver too.

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    Jeremy,

    you could always come live in West Las Vegas. You'll always have a honed razor.
    For raising kids I would stay away from Las Vegas. The weather is superb but you'll need to get used to at least several months of hot oven weather, low to nearly non existing humidity and winters can be cold at night (much colder than Cali but still Club Med for me coming from cold and rainy Belgium).
    Very liberal and crazy drivers. No wonder, half of them leave the casinos drunk. lol
    Las Vegas seems like a big city, but in reality it's a town.
    You can drive in less than 30 min from the west side of Vegas (the Red Rocks) where I live to the east side of town where you'll find the strip and down town. Crime rate is pretty much up, especially North Las Vegas. It's also one of the cities with the higest car theft rate.

    Good luck with your move.

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