Thread: "Obama is sort of God" - he's too good for you, me, the country, and even the world

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

So the 8 years of the worst president in the history of the USA has nothing to do with it. The fault lies in the last 5 months of the new President's policies ? Give me a break.

The fact that you don't like George W. Bush, doesn't make Him the worse President in the history of the USA.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

So the 8 years of the worst president in the history of the USA has nothing to do with it. The fault lies in the last 5 months of the new President's policies ? Give me a break.

That's the spirit! The eight years of a nightmare are over, so now you can finally accept everything the new government is serving you without critically thinking about it and you can light-heartedly dismiss any new potential risks with the liberating thought that it cannot be any worse than when we had Bush.

Unlike you, I have my doubts; and you are free to dismiss me as an aggressive pessimist. But there is something odd about not having any serious debates about those risks in the media, do not you think? Or are you 100% convinced that all Obama's policies will be successful in the long run?

Originally Posted by ChrisL

I agree with you, not necessarily because I think Obama will screw up on an unprecedented scale or that he'll fall flat on his face, but because the media who IMO is lionizing him at the moment, if history repeats, will love turning and attacking him even more.



I know what you're saying, Jimmy. But if quadrupling the deficit since he's taken office is true, IMO that's like pulling the pin on a grenade and running away. That sucker's probably going to blow up and blow up......BIG!!

Chris L

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the wall st. bail out begin with Paulson under the Bush administration ? The house was on fire and the hose was running before Obama took office. I am not qualified to judge whether either administration has made the right decisions in responding to the crisis. Naturally I hope that the current guy is going to succeed and I think that is why most Americans still support him. At least are hoping he, and therefore we, succeed.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Naturally I hope that the current guy is going to succeed and I think that is why most Americans still support him. At least are hoping he, and therefore we, succeed.

There is hope and there is blind hope. By not critically evaluating a politician's motives and actions (and by discouraging others from doing so), you eventually create a monster.

Originally Posted by sparq

That's the spirit! The eight years of a nightmare are over, so now you can finally accept everything the new government is serving you without critically thinking about it and you can light-heartedly dismiss any new potential risks with the liberating thought that it cannot be any worse than when we had Bush.

Unlike you, I have my doubts; and you are free to dismiss me as an aggressive pessimist. But there is something odd about not having any serious debates about those risks in the media, do not you think? Or are you 100% convinced that all Obama's policies will be successful in the long run?

As previously stated I am not qualified to judge whether the economic policies that Obama's administration is pursuing are correct. I can only hope they will be successful.

As for the media, for what little it is worth, they lost credibility with me in the runup to the Iraq war for example. There were journalists such as the two from the Philadelphia Inquirer who were exceptions but by and large they allowed themselves to be cheerleaders. Speaking now of 'serious' journalists. Not the sensationalists who are on a level with paparazzi,AFAIC, which is most of them.

Jimmy, I find it a little odd when someone says they are not qualified to judge the actions of one president while calling another president the worse president in history. A little less emotion and a little more discernment might be in order.

Originally Posted by JMS

Jimmy, I find it a little odd when someone says they are not qualified to judge the actions of one president while calling another president the worse president in history. A little less emotion and a little more discernment might be in order.

He may be a runner up.... as he himself told Bob Woodard, 'history will judge and we'll be dead by then'. Here is one historian's opinion and a poll of some others here.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

He may be a runner up.... as he himself told Bob Woodard, 'history will judge and we'll be dead by then'. Here is one historian's opinion and a poll of some others here.

There are similar opinions for Obama but I don't see you jumping on that bandwagon.
All I am saying is that we can not let emotion make our minds up for us. In these times especially. when every news source has there own agenda and uses tactics designed to get you emotional instead of think critically, it is very important not to let emotion move us, rather we should be our own master.

Originally Posted by JMS

There are similar opinions for Obama but I don't see you jumping on that bandwagon.
All I am saying is that we can not let emotion make our minds up for us. In these times especially. when every news source has there own agenda and uses tactics designed to get you emotional instead of think critically, it is very important not to let emotion move us, rather we should be our own master.

I agree. Had you already read those articles or are you a speed reader ? I think the second of the two is a reasoned assessment without a partisan agenda. Just the facts.

Originally Posted by Navaja

The fact that you don't like George W. Bush, doesn't make Him the worse President in the history of the USA.

You're right, it doesn't. Bush himself provided all the proof that was necessary.

I also happen to think that the hysteria over Obama was, and is, pretty ridiculous. Still, every day in this forum there's a sarcastic thread titled something along the lines of, "Obama's BRLLIANT Decision to Investigate (insert hot-button issue)!" Gun control, abortion, stem cell research, foreign policy, Iraq, etc, etc.

I mean, the horse isn't just dead from the beating...it's pulp. Sing a different tune already.