Thread: "Obama is sort of God" - he's too good for you, me, the country, and even the world

Originally Posted by joesixpack

Sorry, Stockdale had a hearing aid (from his time as a POW in North Viet Nam, a war GW and Clinton managed to skillfully avoid), and not much patience for politics. He was not a very polished public speaker, but I don't think he was any less able a leader than any of the presidents in my lifetime.


He certainly didn't have bats in his belfry. He was one of the most decorated Navy veterans in American history. He was a Medal of Honer recipient, as well. I think we could have (and in fact, did) have a lot worse men in the VP chair over the past two decades. I think he would have been a better President as well.

I was referring to Perot.

Originally Posted by JMS

I was referring to Perot.

Perot wasn't such a crackpot. I think he would have been a better president than Clinton or Bush. The press tore him up for what? Because he wasn't any good at pandering the way politicians are? For speaking his mind and not worrying if some special interest got offended? He wasn't any less qualified than anyone else who ever ran, he was just honest about who he was.

Perot was quite a personality and I liked his presentations. I don't know if you followed it back then but his daughter was getting married. He withdrew from the campaign saying that ninjas ...... not a typo..... ninjas dressed in black had come across his lawn to attack his daughter if I remember correctly ? Please, someone correct me if I am wrong.

Then later he restarted the campaign but his erratic behavior and the disappointment people felt from the initial pulling out doomed the rest of the campaign to failure. That is my memory of it all these years later.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Perot was quite a personality and I liked his presentations. I don't know if you followed it back then but his daughter was getting married. He withdrew from the campaign saying that ninjas ...... not a typo..... ninjas dressed in black had come across his lawn to attack his daughter if I remember correctly ? Please, someone correct me if I am wrong.

Then later he restarted the campaign but his erratic behavior and the disappointment people felt from the initial pulling out doomed the rest of the campaign to failure. That is my memory of it all these years later.

From Wikipedia...

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By the summer Perot commanded a lead in the presidential race with 39 percent of the vote,[13] but on July 16, Perot unexpectedly dropped out.[14] Perot eventually stated the reason was that he received threats that digitally altered photos would be released by the Bush campaign to sabotage his daughter's wedding.[15] Regardless of the reasonings for the drop-out, his reputation was damaged. Many of his supporters felt betrayed and public opinion polls would subsequently show a large negative view of Perot that was absent prior.[16]

In September he qualified for all 50 state ballots. On October 1, he announced his intention to start running again. He explained his earlier withdrawal by claiming that Republican operatives had wanted to reveal compromising photos of his daughter, which would disrupt her wedding, and he wanted to spare her from embarrassment. Scott Barnes, a private investigator and security consultant who had testified to that effect and supported Perot's story would later, in 1997, reveal that he had tricked Perot into believing that it was true, but it was a hoax he created with others outside any political campaign. Barnes was a Perot supporter, and believed if it were revealed Republicans were involved in dirty tricks, it would harm Bush's candidacy.[17]"

Well my memory isn't totally shot This quote found in a review of Perot based on a biography by Gerald Posner here. I have no opinion on the webpage I sourced it from. I just wanted to make sure I didn't imagine it. I remember seeing Perot make the statement that they came across his lawn and it was like seeing Captain Queeg with the ball bearings. .... if you're old enough to remember that.

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In 1992, Perot claimed that the North Vietnamese government had hired the Black Panthers to assassinate him, back in 1970, because of his efforts on behalf of POWs. He even said that "one night they had five people coming across my front lawn with rifles", and that a guard dog bit a big piece out of one attacker's butt.
However, Harold Birkhead, the man who ran security (including the dogs) at Perot's house at the time, says he never saw or heard about anything like that. And Paul McCaghren, who headed Dallas police intelligence in 1970, also dismisses the notion. "... it did not happen. There were only about 8 people here [in Dallas] that belonged to the Black Panther party. Two of those people worked for us, and they told us every day what was happening." (Posner, p66)

I believe that because of Perots throwing his hat in the ring, snatching it back and then deciding that he wanted to run after all, is the reason 3rd parties havent stood a chance on the national scale. It doesnt matter what his reasons were(even if trying to save his family) he proved that he was not leadership material in this arena. Thats too bad, I really liked what he said at the time and it has proven all too true since then.

The President is not God or even a god he is the president and like it or not as he leads we must follow until there is a difference bewteen this country's direction and our religous beliefs. We pay way too much attention to those who speak on the "idiot" box.I don't think Mr. Obama or even a demacraticlly controled house and senate is this country's biggest problem I believe as a people we have lost our love for America. Most people believe the oppsite of love is hate actually it's not, it's empahty (not feeling anything at all). Without love (or call it pride) we do not care so our attention turns naturally to something else sex, drugs ,rock n roll, money, there is always something we "worship" alot of people just call it different things. Belief or unbelief in a higher power not at question what is at queston is do we care for this country enough to elect leaders which believe as we do and will express that belief in government and if they don't do we care enough to call for their removal or at least vote for someone else next time.

Unfortunately, that video has been removed. Here's what some of you may be missing. The press put him in the presidency. Did it really matter what his views were? Or his past? It wasn't a factor because he destroyed McCain in the popular vote by at least 6 million votes. You could have put David Duke running with Benito Mussolini as Democrats and even they would have won by a landslide. While a great many voted for Obama, a great many voted against Bush. How else could there have been such a routing in both houses of Congress? The last election was a "take that, Republicans!" election, not an election to put the best leaders and candidates into office (don't believe me? One obvious answer comes to mind: Al Franken. Please, PLEASE anyone tell me why you think he was a good choice). Even I couldn't bring myself to vote for McCain and had to leave my vote for president blank. Since the press got him elected and the can of worms has been opened and can NEVER be resealed, do you think they're going to cut their noses off to spite their faces by criticizing him for what he's doing? I wouldn't want to admit something like that, either and would play the ignorance card, too. The Emperor has no clothes yet no one is reporting it. What a surprise. That's why he's getting the treatment he's receiving and is perceived as a God.

Obama is no God, he's not a rock star and he certainly isn't a celebrity. Just because the press ignores these things doesn't mean that everyone is ignorant to what's going on. The press thinks just like he does and they let him pass. He is the president and he's a human being just like you and me.

Bush was not the worst president ever. I think that honor goes to Carter.

I voted for President Obama because I hadn't felt as much hope in a candidate since Robert F. Kennedy. This op ed here by JFk's daughter Caroline expresses my feelings better then I can. Whether or not we will be disappointed remains to me seen. Only time will tell.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I voted for President Obama because I hadn't felt as much hope in a candidate since Robert F. Kennedy. This op ed here by JFk's daughter Caroline expresses my feelings better then I can. Whether or not we will be disappointed remains to me seen. Only time will tell.

I have never before been so filled with so much hope that i will have some change left in my pocket by the end of a presidency.

Matt