Thread: Slept through 55 tattoos???? - The plot thickens

Originally Posted by LX_Emergency

You're acting as if we're disagreeing on this. We're not. It was her choice. But regardless of her free will I still the the father was either an idiot or a jerk for leaving her alone.

If if I'd say to my kids don't do it you're an idiot I'd allow them to do it if they really wanted to. But I WOULD stick around.

Regardless of her choice her father (in my opinion) should have stuck around for the procedure.

I guess it all boils down to your view of such things. agree to disagree, I guess. to me it's odd that her father would be actively involved AT ALL in her life at that age, other than the odd xmas card or birthday phone call. but, to each their own.

To the men who believe they can shelter their children and/or 'be there' for them throughout their adulthood: Once your young daughter turns 18 and is legally an adult she can go one day to get gangbanged by 300 men in front of 25 cameras if she damn well pleases. How will you 'be there' for her and not feel like an idiot if she has her little heart SET on that? Once you've tried everything besides physical restraint, there is nothing more you can do to influence her life. When she walks into that room with 300 men, will you walk in with her, or leave her alone?

To Jimmy- welcome to the world of 21st century tattooing. The man below is named Paul Booth. He is extremely famous in the world of tattooing. Last I heard he commands like $300 an HOUR for tattoo work and is booked for years in advance. Yes, you sound pretty old school- but all your twenty years of experience do not mean that the industry has changed while you (set in your ways) have just stayed the same. I don't mean to disrespect you here, but it doesn't seem like you are up to date on this stuff.

At 18, people tend to still live at home in western Europe, and the family is usually 1 unit. Parents are still involved at that age, but usually in the advisory fashion, rather than the 'clean up your room' fashion.

Originally Posted by Philadelph

To the men who believe they can shelter their children and/or 'be there' for them throughout their adulthood: Once your young daughter turns 18 and is legally an adult she can go one day to get gangbanged by 300 men in front of 25 cameras if she damn well pleases. How will you 'be there' for her and not feel like an idiot if she has her little heart SET on that? Once you've tried everything besides physical restraint, there is nothing more you can do to influence her life. When she walks into that room with 300 men, will you walk in with her, or leave her alone?

she could do that, aye.
But you are talking extremes. If you have raised your kids in a way that they end up trusting your advice, then they might listen. And if you have been able to instill a sense of right and wrong in them, and some plain common sense, then it is not a matter of being legally preventing her from taking an action, but more like advising her that it might not be a good idea.

And if she trusts you, that might count for something.

Originally Posted by Philadelph

To Jimmy- welcome to the world of 21st century tattooing. The man below is named Paul Booth. He is extremely famous in the world of tattooing. Last I heard he commands like $300 an HOUR for tattoo work and is booked for years in advance. Yes, you sound pretty old school- but all your twenty years of experience do not mean that the industry has changed while you (set in your ways) have just stayed the same. I don't mean to disrespect you here, but it doesn't seem like you are up to date on this stuff.

You will of course notice that this man does not have tattoos in his face, that his nose is not plugged, and that he does not have over a dozen of rings through his lips and various rings through the rest of his facial area?

This man, while tattood, still looks like a human being.

Originally Posted by Philadelph

To Jimmy- welcome to the world of 21st century tattooing. The man below is named Paul Booth. He is extremely famous in the world of tattooing. Last I heard he commands like $300 an HOUR for tattoo work and is booked for years in advance. Yes, you sound pretty old school- but all your twenty years of experience do not mean that the industry has changed while you (set in your ways) have just stayed the same. I don't mean to disrespect you here, but it doesn't seem like you are up to date on this stuff.

Okay Alex, I will take the bait. FWIW, I remember when Paul Booth tattooed at Custom Chrome, a motorcycle shop, on route 46. He and I worked for Ernie White and that was where he apprenticed. He has worked as a guest artist at Tattoo Paradise, where I have worked for 14 years, more then once and although I have never been invited to his house for dinner nor do I keep in touch with him I could say truthfully that I know him and he is a nice guy and a very talented artist. That said when he got his facial tattoo my quip was that I guess he didn't feel like he was ugly enough.

Being heavily tattooed in the seventies ...... yeah, waaaaay back then and the eighties meant that you could be standing in line at a supermarket and have some women you never saw before come up and start rubbing your arm to see what you skin felt like. It meant feeling peoples discomfort when you got on an elevator with a group of "normies". Having people stare and point at you in shopping centers and the cops assume you were a Hell's Angel or an ex-con and hassle you to find out.

It meant answering the same questions from strangers, were you drunk, in the navy, are you sorry, did it hurt and on and on. That is why most sleeved guys that I knew back then wore long sleeves. That is why I don't have any tattoos on my neck or hands. Nothing I can't cover up with clothes if I don't feel like dealing with it. My friend Lyle Tuttle still wears long sleeve shirts on most occasions. It is more accepted then it was. It is basically mainstream. Now if you want to be different and cool don't get any tattoos.

Originally Posted by Bruno

You will of course notice that this man does not have tattoos in his face

Are you kidding me? Yes Bruno, he DOES have tattoos on his face. My point is that he does in fact have facial tattoos and is among the most famous in the tattoo industry. "Respectable tattooists", to quote Jimmy, DO have and give facial tattoos nowadays.

Originally Posted by Philadelph

Are you kidding me? Yes Bruno, he DOES have tattoos on his face. My point is that he does in fact have facial tattoos and is among the most famous in the tattoo industry. "Respectable tattooists", to quote Jimmy, DO have and give facial tattoos nowadays.

I disagree. As I said. I have had interaction with the guy and always thought that he was a good guy .... and I still think that he is. He got his face tattooed, whatever that is about. I haven't seen or spoken to him since as I don't do conventions anymore and he hasn't guested at the shop since '96. I don't know that Paul has given anyone a facial tattoo. If he has he made the choice. I personally don't think it ought to be done but I guess I'm old fashioned. Maybe the times have passed me by. Somehow I prefer my old times in many ways. YMMV.

Originally Posted by Philadelph

To the men who believe they can shelter their children and/or 'be there' for them throughout their adulthood: Once your young daughter turns 18 and is legally an adult she can go one day to get gangbanged by 300 men in front of 25 cameras if she damn well pleases. How will you 'be there' for her and not feel like an idiot if she has her little heart SET on that? Once you've tried everything besides physical restraint, there is nothing more you can do to influence her life. When she walks into that room with 300 men, will you walk in with her, or leave her alone?

So long as she doesn't listen to "modern jazz."
(pick your battles I say!)

-Rob

That Paul Booth guy has a nice smooth shave, lol. Doubt he uses a straight, though.

In closing (lol) I'll once again state that respectable tattooists both give and receive facial tattoos. Here is an article about Booth in Forbes saying that the one on his face is his favorite:

Tattooing's King Of Creepy - Forbes.com

Here is another article about the guy who TATTOOED Booth's face. From reading it, I'm sure you can see how "respectable" he is, starting with the first line...

Tattoo Collector Magazine - The First Quality Tattoo Publication for the Public