Thread: North Carolina Intollerant and Unconstitutional Action

Originally Posted by Doc

the thing that really bugs me about this is they publish crap like this making it sound as if everyone in the state is behind it then people see it and throw it out for long discussions here and then after a lot of wasted time you find out its just one or a few extremist waving a flag and being loud. Guys learn to read between the lines the papers and the new agencies are just distracting you from the really important stuff.

So much for 'Liberal Media Bias'.

Originally Posted by Warbler

btw, do you think none of the 100s of thousands of brave that fought and died for this country were atheists? Do you think they fought for a nation that allows laws against atheists from taking elected office?

Interesting article about Pat Tillman - to many he was a hero. He was also an atheist.

/hijack

Good point, ZMKA.

So tell me, treydampier, is it true that Tillman has no beliefs in anything, and is much like mercenaries were described by Machiavelli?

Originally Posted by Warbler

Good point, ZMKA.

So tell me, treydampier, is it true that Tillman has no beliefs in anything, and is much like mercenaries were described by Machiavelli?

Pay Tillman is a hero. No doubt. Whatever he stood for outside of fighting for his country I will not know. As for truth, there is no truth in matters like this because without a standard there is no truth.
God is a 50/50 entity, if there is a God and a heaven, then he will accept those who accept Him. If there is no God, then were all dead anyway. Besides those other 4,000 who died didn't get the press he did. Perhaps the ones who were Christians and offered big contracts weren't heroes since they weren't aethiests.. It took fame and fortune to get Pat the recognition, but those others who weren't famous were forgotten by ESPN and the press for the most part.
I am done with this thread. Ypu can pull atheist examples everywhere although they are a vast minority and yet there is no Democracy in the US because minority groups rule.
Congrats!

fail

Reality isn't a popularity contest.

This reminds me of a quote by Robert M Pirsig:

You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No-one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically devoted to political or religious faiths or any other kind of dogmas or goals, its always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt.

Originally Posted by treydampier

As for truth, there is no truth in matters like this because without a standard there is no truth.

huh?

Originally Posted by treydampier

God is a 50/50 entity, if there is a God and a heaven, then he will accept those who accept Him. If there is no God, then were all dead anyway.

this has nothing to do with whether or not God exists.

Originally Posted by treydampier

Besides those other 4,000 who died didn't get the press he did. Perhaps the ones who were Christians and offered big contracts weren't heroes since they weren't aethiests..

never said that. Of course they were heroes. I don't generalize people based on what they believe.

Originally Posted by treydampier

It took fame and fortune to get Pat the recognition, but those others who weren't famous were forgotten by ESPN and the press for the most part.

that's b.s. It took more than fame and fortune. Tillman could have made a lot more money, instead, he gave that up and sacrificed his life for his country. That is why he got the press, and he deserves it. As for the others no, they don't get his press. But they are not forgotten, at least not by me.

Originally Posted by treydampier

I am done with this thread. Ypu can pull atheist examples everywhere although they are a vast minority and yet there is no Democracy in the US because minority groups rule.
Congrats!

So keeping an atheist(who was elected by the MAJORITY) from holding office merely because he's atheist is your idea of Democracy?? If that is true, I don't want to live in your version of a Democracy. This isn't about rule by the minority, this is about equality.

Oh, just so it is clear, I'm not an Atheist. I am a church going member of an United Methodist Church.

Originally Posted by fccexpert

This is a non-issue and should be treated as such. Previous court cases render the requirement of the state constitution null and void. Any action on anyones part simply plays into the hands of the fringe elements who brought this up in the first place.

Bingo. A common political strategy.

" yet there is no Democracy in the US because minority groups rule."

So we don't have elections where the highest vote getter wins?
We don't have elections where public policy decisions are placed on the ballot and decided via majority vote?
And if you are referring to issues that have been declared to be unconstitutional by the judiciary (i.e. school prayer) the founding fathers set up a system of government that did not subject all issues to be decided by majority rule.

There are no Sororities in Penn State Housed outside of campus housing (dorms), as there is an ancient PA (or possibly county?) law that forbids more than (3 or 5, I forget) unrelated women from living in the same house. It came about as a means of combating houses of prostitution. But no one has ever bothered changing it and it is evidently still enforced. Old laws are stupid and lawmakers are too lazy/incompetent to bother changing them. I'm fairly sure there are states where affairs could technically get you sent to jail... a laughable concept to most these days. I think the man who even brought this up as a means to keep his opponent from taking office should be barred from ever holding a job more complex than handing out towels at a Denny's washroom for being so damned silly.