Thread: Organizations with the specific intent to bring christianity to its ultimate demise..

Originally Posted by Wildtim

One of the main tenants of Russian communism was the extinction of religion. It was illegal to be Christian and to worship God in communist Russia. The communist party actually had gangs of soldiers, basically swat teams on call to break up prayer meetings and arrest all those present, if they lived through the violent break-up of the meeting. These soldiers were taught that Christians were the enemy's of the state and deserving of death.

I think you're just misinformed, these are demonstrably false.

Originally Posted by gugi

I think you're just misinformed, these are demonstrably false.

I think you need to check your facts:

Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For a first hand biographical account read his book:

Sergei Kourdakov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Wildtim

I think you need to check your facts:

Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For a first hand biographical account read his book:

Sergei Kourdakov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is there anywhere that says "religion is illegal in the USSR"? I don't know, that's why I ask.

"In any case, religious beliefs and practices did persist, in the domestic and private spheres but also in the scattered public spaces allowed by a state that recognized its failure to eradicate religion and the political dangers of an unrelenting culture war.[1]"

Persecution doesn't equal outlawed..

Originally Posted by wpfontenot

Persecution doesn't equal outlawed..

If the religion is persecuted by the state, what difference does it make as to what laws are on the books.


BTW I see a lot of references of old Soviet style persecution, the same is going on today in China, India and almost all of the Islamic states. Another thing I have noticed is no mention of Capitalism as being an enemy of Christianity. More fuel to this fire>>> "The love of money is the root of ALL evil."


I do appreciate the posts pointing out Christianity as it own worst enenmy. Those of us who profess Christianity should take note.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

If the religion is persecuted by the state, what difference does it make as to what laws are on the books.

Big difference, freedom of religion was not outlawed

Originally Posted by wpfontenot

Big difference, freedom of religion was not outlawed

My point is this, what good does it do me to have a freedom that is denied me. It would be like having the freedom to drive 35 mph down the street, but every time I get on the street I get a ticket for just being there, never getting the chance to enjoy the freedom. There may be no laws on the books to restrict me but I am still being restricted by those who are sworn to uphold the law. Persecution by the state equals illegality wether written or not.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

My point is this, what good does it do me to have a freedom that is denied me. It would be like having the freedom to drive 35 mph down the street, but every time I get on the street I get a ticket for just being there, never getting the chance to enjoy the freedom. There may be no laws on the books to restrict me but I am still being restricted by those who are sworn to uphold the law. Persecution by the state equals illegality wether written or not.

I'm certain that the faithful practiced their "legal" rights, freedom of religion was not denied.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

My point is this, what good does it do me to have a freedom that is denied me.

Oh, it does a lot of good actually. If it's easier think about the US constitution and various freedoms it guarantees. Some were not available to be practiced for decades and even centuries.

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Ugh! Failure again.

I think to single out "the left" as a destroyer of Christianity is pretty ludicrous, and I'd love to see some examples of where this is evident. I would support the stance that Christianity is threatened by no person, group, or organized branch of government other than (as has been suggested) by other more radical Christian groups.

I think that's all I'll say for now. I guess I should go back and read the other thread from which this one stemmed to get some context.

Can somebody link to it?


EDIT: Nevermind, I found it.

Originally Posted by wpfontenot

Big difference, freedom of religion was not outlawed

Are you telling me that Christian worship was not outlawed in the USSR?