Thread: Organizations with the specific intent to bring christianity to its ultimate demise..

...Specifically secular or athiest movements, organizations or groups. Can anyone point out such groups?
I bring this up as Me and X had a little friendly exchange in Seraphims "Christmas poll".
He said:

Originally Posted by xman
No, not all the religious are nutters, Alex, but there is no atheist movement to literally destroy infidels.

X

I said:

There are a few atheist movements to literally destroy Christianity though X.

To which he PMed me (very classy indeed!) to "call me out" as he put it. He wished to know the specific movements I referred to.The Liberal left of this country immediately come to mind...not the average Joe mind you but the group in charge and the extreme left of the U. S.. This of course is not their stated goal so I didn't bring this one up. I brought up the age of enlightenment and the reign of terror at the time of the French revolution. He dismissed it out of hand(maybe he doesn't know of Robespierre)and asked me to bring up something a little more modern. I have yet to PM him with a response because all other possibilities that I can find are based on appearance and actions but not on stated goals.

three things I would like to see out of this thread:
1) A friendly and honest discussion on the intentional actions by some movements and groups (secular in nature and not religious)to bring to end the christian religion.

2)a list, if at all possible, of modern movements with the stated purpose of discrediting and/or bringing to an end the christian religion. These must be verifiable and not something that you heard from a friend of a friend.

3)Polite and friendly discourse between all participants.

I can't think of any modern movements that have a mission statement to destroy religion but Robespierre was involved with another religion, the cult of the Supreme Being or something similar so he doesn't rally count as an atheist.

Personally, I've never heard of such a group, nor have I felt the need to seek out membership in one. The whole idea seems odd: joining together on the basis of not believing in something. To make a somewhat asinine analogy, I doubt many Christians have ever considered forming a "Bigfoot is a lie" group.

One significant way the analogy fails: there aren't enormous, well-funded, well-organized groups of people who DO believe in Bigfoot trying to make the rest of us live our lives based on those beliefs.

Still not enough to make me seek out a non-believer group, though.

Mark,

actually I think you are looking at the wrong end of the spectrum to find organizations bent on destroying Christianity. I would nominate many self-professed Christian organizations before even starting to look into Atheist organizations. Many are turning the Bible's teachings on their heads, using a message of love to promote hate.

As a starting point: Leviticus 19:18, Leviticus 19:34, Mark 12:28-34.

Now, how many self-professed Christian organizations live by those 2 simple commandments that are repeated all over their own Holy Book?

Your arch-nemesis
Michael

I would nominate the ACLU and the Democratic party of the United States as two. Now neither of these two organizations is going to state the destruction of another organization as their goal but their actions speak.

Honestly i have never heard about such atheist organisations.
Considering the huge amount of work they would have to do before they got their mission accomplished worldwide, i think such organisation would collapse into it's own impossibility.
No, Christian organisation (church) rules ok.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

I can't think of any modern movements that have a mission statement to destroy religion but Robespierre was involved with another religion, the cult of the Supreme Being or something similar so he doesn't rally count as an atheist.

Reason...Supreme reason not supreme being

Originally Posted by MichaelP

Mark,

actually I think you are looking at the wrong end of the spectrum to find organizations bent on destroying Christianity. I would nominate many self-professed Christian organizations before even starting to look into Atheist organizations. Many are turning the Bible's teachings on their heads, using a message of love to promote hate.

As a starting point: Leviticus 19:18, Leviticus 19:34, Mark 12:28-34.

Now, how many self-professed Christian organizations live by those 2 simple commandments that are repeated all over their own Holy Book?

Your arch-nemesis
Michael

I was wondering when someone would bring up christianity as its own destruction. I was considering the same thing.

What specifically are you referring to with regards to "turning the Bible's teaching....message of love to promote hate" I don't understand your point, could you please explain what you mean?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by MichaelP

Mark,

actually I think you are looking at the wrong end of the spectrum to find organizations bent on destroying Christianity. I would nominate many self-professed Christian organizations before even starting to look into Atheist organizations. Many are turning the Bible's teachings on their heads, using a message of love to promote hate.

As a starting point: Leviticus 19:18, Leviticus 19:34, Mark 12:28-34.

Now, how many self-professed Christian organizations live by those 2 simple commandments that are repeated all over their own Holy Book?

Your arch-nemesis
Michael

Not sure how anyone, or any organization, could actually bring about the demise of a belief system. Even the Soviets couldn't do it in a country that was officially atheist.