Thread: Organizations with the specific intent to bring christianity to its ultimate demise..

Originally Posted by JMS

You aren't calling me Alex are you? X was speaking first to Alex aka LXEmergency. I then responded to that post. Maybe thats your confusion. My name is Mark. I would tell you X's name but he swore me to secrecy and promised to keep me well stocked with Unibrowes Maudite. Hint Hint X

Sorry Mark, lil' slip there, jus' messin' wit' yuh bruthuhman.

I know X's name. Hmmm .... so he is vulnerable to Xtortion , is he?

Originally Posted by Wildtim

One of the main tenants of Russian communism was the extinction of religion. It was illegal to be Christian and to worship God in communist Russia. The communist party actually had gangs of soldiers, basically swat teams on call to break up prayer meetings and arrest all those present, if they lived through the violent break-up of the meeting. These soldiers were taught that Christians were the enemy's of the state and deserving of death.

I think you've gotten a wrong information on this. Being a Christian (or Muslim) was never illegal in the Soviet; Orthodox church was (and is) protected by state. Quite popular it was too. Religion was of course never suggested by communists, but illegal it wasn't.
I think that communists had the weird idea of 'growing and educating' people until they would be 'civilised' (=brainwashed) enough to replace one religion (Christianity) into another (communism).

Originally Posted by CRR

What specifically are you referring to with regards to "turning the Bible's teaching....message of love to promote hate" I don't understand your point, could you please explain what you mean?

Thanks!

Chris,

There are many examples of self-professed Christian organizations promoting hate. Here is a small sample from one such organization, the Westboro Baptist Church:





There are even scarier ones, like the most militant members of Dominion Theology.

What they are doing is the opposite of what the Bible tells us over and over again: love God and love your brother in humanity.

Originally Posted by MichaelP

Chris,

There are many examples of self-professed Christian organizations promoting hate. Here is a small sample from one such organization, the Westboro Baptist Church:





There are even scarier ones, like the most militant members of Dominion Theology.

What they are doing is the opposite of what the Bible tells us over and over again: love God and love your brother in humanity.

These pricks picketed a funeral of one of my long time friends in my own hometown. I'll never forget that day. If they hate the USA so much why don't they utilize their freedom to leave? What a bunch of worthless human beings! Their leader, Fred Phelps, is a human wasteland and he aught to be shot.

Originally Posted by gugi

I think you're just misinformed, these are demonstrably false.

I think you need to check your facts:

Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For a first hand biographical account read his book:

Sergei Kourdakov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Wildtim

I think you need to check your facts:

Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For a first hand biographical account read his book:

Sergei Kourdakov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is there anywhere that says "religion is illegal in the USSR"? I don't know, that's why I ask.

"In any case, religious beliefs and practices did persist, in the domestic and private spheres but also in the scattered public spaces allowed by a state that recognized its failure to eradicate religion and the political dangers of an unrelenting culture war.[1]"

Persecution doesn't equal outlawed..

Originally Posted by Wildtim

I think you need to check your facts:

Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For a first hand biographical account read his book:

Sergei Kourdakov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Uhmm, I am familiar with the facts, and not from reading about it on the internet either, but what puzzles me is that you don't appear to have even read the link you posted. Here is an exact quote:

Originally Posted by wikipedia

The Soviets' official religious stance was one of "religious freedom or tolerance"

The term illegal was your choice not mine.

Originally Posted by wpfontenot

Persecution doesn't equal outlawed..

If the religion is persecuted by the state, what difference does it make as to what laws are on the books.


BTW I see a lot of references of old Soviet style persecution, the same is going on today in China, India and almost all of the Islamic states. Another thing I have noticed is no mention of Capitalism as being an enemy of Christianity. More fuel to this fire>>> "The love of money is the root of ALL evil."


I do appreciate the posts pointing out Christianity as it own worst enenmy. Those of us who profess Christianity should take note.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

If the religion is persecuted by the state, what difference does it make as to what laws are on the books.

Big difference, freedom of religion was not outlawed

Originally Posted by wpfontenot

Big difference, freedom of religion was not outlawed

My point is this, what good does it do me to have a freedom that is denied me. It would be like having the freedom to drive 35 mph down the street, but every time I get on the street I get a ticket for just being there, never getting the chance to enjoy the freedom. There may be no laws on the books to restrict me but I am still being restricted by those who are sworn to uphold the law. Persecution by the state equals illegality wether written or not.