Thread: College turns kids liberal?

Originally Posted by gssixgun

OOoooo we call that Liberal Elitism, and yes we are rather familiar with it here in the US ....

HAHAHAHAHAHA, my bad but that is funny

Almost makes an education sound like a bad thing

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

or as their conservative spouses would have it, idiots

Well, my spouse is actually more liberal than I am and she still thinks I'm an idiot so that doesn't play.

Originally Posted by wpfontenot

HAHAHAHAHAHA, my bad but that is funny

Almost makes an education sound like a bad thing

Education is a fine thing....

The assumption that you are better than someone who doesn't have it is the bad thing....and also the fallacy of liberalism in itself...

Originally Posted by Sirshavesalot

The simple fact is any study or survey can be skewed to fit any point of view statistics are the least accurate of any mathematical model for determining things like this study has done.

In the end our education system lags behind 75% of the world easily, so Fox in their brilliance is more concerned about who is conservative and liberal rather then who is "well educated."

Why even watch this channel it's such a disaster.

Cheers
David

Hey Fringe is not bad at all.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Education is a fine thing....

The assumption that you are better then someone who doesn't have it is the bad thing....and also the fallacy of liberalism in itself...

I keep hearing "Liberal Elitism" but have yet to notice it, unless it's when a liberal disagrees with someone and can't be persuaded to change their mind. Hmmm, come to think of it that could also be Conservative Elitism if the shoes on the other foot.

It exists on both sides of the political spectrum and is usually tossed about freely by the far right/left but not so much by us moderates in the center.

Meh. There's elitism all over. People think that their education, profession, income, ability or religion somehow makes them superior to others.

I just found it hilarious that they're asking how these collegiate liberal trends can be fixed.

Originally Posted by xman

No, it's true no matter which institution is attended. I think it's because concepts of ethics, morality and social consciousness get discussed in greater detail than we in the lay-world are used to. And the profs? They are also educated so they 'suffer' the same 'bias'. It should be a wake-up call that people who are more educated than oneself and have a radically different perspective that reassessment is in order, but that never stopped a good dogmatic meme from propagating before.

Actually I made it through college without taking an ethics or a morality class. Most of my professors were more interested in hearing themselves talk than they were in actually teaching anything. The best way to pass was to regurgitate the information you were fed with any biases it had. If you questioned or used the art of critical thinking in any way you were likely to fail. This at a public university. I learned very quickly that the best opinions to have were the ones I was told to have I guess in this way college did a good job of preparing me for the workplace.


Ethics, morality and social consciousness? Those I was taught in Church, which I optionally attended for free on the weekends and evenings when I wasn't in class.

Since they have become places to generate money (i.e. a business) and their personal wealth, cut them off of the government / tax payer's teet forcing them to bring the obscene tuition under control and like any other business if you stink and your product stinks then you sink, making them performance based, right now they like any other government operation are not and therefore can and do waste with impunity.
Swim or sink.

Originally Posted by wpfontenot

I keep hearing "Liberal Elitism" but have yet to notice it, unless it's when a liberal disagrees with someone and can't be persuaded to change their mind. Hmmm, come to think of it that could also be Conservative Elitism if the shoes on the other foot.

It exists on both sides of the political spectrum and is usually tossed about freely by the far right/left but not so much by us moderates in the center.

You aren't noticing how our president keeps saying and doing things that make it clear he assumes he know how your life should be run better than you do?

This is the best example going right now of liberal elitism.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

OOoooo we call that Liberal Elitism, and yes we are rather familiar with it here in the US ....

Really? When I think about how others might be more informed/intelligent than myself I usually think of it as humility, but I guess it's your prerogative to reject the notions of the greatest minds of your society if you wish. I suppose you can also ignore the many real world examples of how such 'liberal' notions succeed in a very broad sense too if you wish and stick to some comfortable narrow minded ideologies of a crumbling modern empire in an advancing post modern world. I'll leave you to that.

Ciao puppies,

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