Thread: A question on Christian Scripture.

I just emailed my Pastor friend the Question and I will get back to you when He emails me back. This is an interesting post and I'm glad to see this being discussed in a good hearted and well intending manner.

Originally Posted by kevint

That's what I'm looking for, so yes ask anyone you feel might be able to make a list

In a nutshell, Ephesians Chapter 2 verses 1 through 10, but it's meat, not milk.

If you look at the 10 commandments you will notice that they are divided into two categories, the first category concerns your relationship to God, the second concerns your relationship with your neighbor (mankind). Someone once asked Jesus which of the commandments were the most important and Jesus told him that if he "loved the Lord his God with all his heart and with all his soul and loved his neighbor as he loved himself" that he had fulfilled all of the commandments of Moses as well as those of the prophets." If you can do these two seemingly simple things you"will go and sin no more.".

This is a mere tidbit of what needs to be discussed but I believe it will open the door for more study as well as understanding. I also believe we would discover the truth of what Jesus meant when he said, "Indeed the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak."

Thanks Kelly. That is direct and simple. I cannot quote exactly and unfortunately must be off for the day. There is a passage with a negative definition- telling us what love is not, as a way of telling what love is.

I might guess the answer is "by grace" but how does one get there. Sadly I do not know anyone who who always acts in Love. As I understand it True Love has no opposite.

Jimmy, what do those passages say to you? I am a little more interested in verse 14 or there abouts where it talks about two being made one.

bbl

Originally Posted by kevint

Jimmy, what do those passages say to you? I am a little more interested in verse 14 or there abouts where it talks about two being made one.

bbl

First it tells me that even though we were dead in trespasses and sin God has made us spiritually alive. Ponder chapter 2, verse 8-10 for awhile,"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." That is the most important thing to me because if it is about merit I'll never make the cut.

Originally Posted by gandrw

Sorry I thought it was Jesus speaking in the quoted scripture Thanks Jimmy for pointing out it was Paul.

Any New Testament book that is not John. Luke, Mark or Matthew are not the words of Christ.

They are the words and opinions of Paul. Paul never met Jesus and was dead-set against James who did receive the word of Christ directly.



So personally, I only read the 4 books mentioned above.

Originally Posted by kevint

The question arises from the metaphor of the following King James scripture: 1Corinthians 3:1
¹And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. ²I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
³For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

Something that has helped me to interpret scriptures is to read with my wife from different bibles. We typically read NKJ & NCV versions. For some reasons this helps us. I seem to be studying more & more from my NCV bible. Below is the same verses from my NCV by Max Lucado:

1 Corinthians 3
Following People Is Wrong
1.Brothers and sisters, in the past I could not talk to you as I talk to spiritual people. I had to talk to you as I would to people without the Spirit---babies in Christ. 2.The teaching I gave you was like milk, not solid food, because you were not able to take solid food. An even now you are not ready. 3.You are still not spiritual, because there is jealousy and quarreling among you, and this shows that you are not spiritual. You are acting like people of the world.

At our men's bible study this past Tuesday we talked about how a scripture gains depth the more we study the bible and more "mature" our spirit becomes. It was nice to know that my feeling like a "baby" as mentioned above is felt by most of our men in my study group and some of those guys have been Christians as long as I have been alive....

Thank you for this post, it's he first time I have grabbed my bible to quote on the forum, it's usually a razor book that I am quoting.

Scott

Originally Posted by Desdinova

Any New Testament book that is not John. Luke, Mark or Matthew are not the words of Christ.

They are the words and opinions of Paul. Paul never met Jesus and was dead-set against James who did receive the word of Christ directly.



So personally, I only read the 4 books mentioned above.

Well Paul says that he did meet Jesus on the road to Damascus. If you believe the gospels you may as well believe the epistles. While it is true that the canon was chosen by men I would think that the Spirit had something to do with it whether they knew it or not.

Originally Posted by kevint

I might guess the answer is "by grace" but how does one get there.

it is, and one gets there "through faith" - that is the simple and correct answer

Originally Posted by kevint

Sadly I do not know anyone who who always acts in Love.

That grace is not of oneself (it is the gift of God), but people tend to take it upon their own selves anyway

Originally Posted by kevint

Thanks Kelly. That is direct and simple. I cannot quote exactly and unfortunately must be off for the day. There is a passage with a negative definition- telling us what love is not, as a way of telling what love is.



bbl

1st Corinthians 13;4 "Love is patient. love is kind, love does not envy or boast, it is not proud."

The greatest example of Love was God himself in the form of Jesus hanging on a cross he did not deserve saying " Father forgive them,"