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    Quote Originally Posted by kevint View Post
    Thank you for you input Paco. I trust these questions will not cause you to repent of your participation

    Let's say, for the moment at least, that I am unconcerned with Heaven. Is there more to the meaning of Salvation- beyond the reward of heaven?

    In Philippians 2 quoted in post 36 there is a very big question there which seems to point out that just as Jesus was in the form of God, that we too have, or at least can have, that same attribute. So it seems that the answer is Yes, he was god incarnate, and so are we. In fact he says we will( I think this means we can, or should be able to) do greater things(miracles) than he.

    Do you mean by perfection that we would be sinless? If so, why would Jesus say sin no more if it cannot be done? Maybe it takes a number of steps / little by little. that's okay.
    This post reminds me of something I heard my dad say a long time ago that stuck with me. "At first, a lot people become a Christian because they fear going to Hell. Then, as they learn, they serve God because they want to go to Heaven. As they grow, they want to go to Heaven because they love God and want to be with Him"... I think that sums it up pretty well. Beyond Heaven, there is the fellowship (joint participation) with God and the other saints.

    Perfection doesn't have the connotation that we won't sin. Perfect, in this sense means "complete". Jesus was God incarnate in human form, but we are made in the likeness of God. There's a difference, but as we become members of his "body" we become adopted sons who "cry Abba, Father" (Rom. 8:7-15)

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