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    Quote Originally Posted by gandrw View Post
    I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here. Do you believe that God created us with sin already a part of our nature. And not that sin began with the act of disobedience in eating the apple. At least in mankind. Or am I miss interpreting what you meant.

    I believe God created us in his image like scripture says and I believe God is without fault or sin he is Prefect. So if he created us in his image why would he put sin in our nature? I believe he gave us free will to fallow him. because that gives him joy to have his creation chose to love and worship him as there creator. That free will allowed Eve to make the dissuasion to disobey and sin when tempted by the snake who I believe was Satan in the form of a snake. But I do not believe there was sin in Adam and Eve till that point.
    It was the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

    We can be sure that it was no accident, and just as surely not really a choice. If it happened as described in Genesis, then most assuredly an All Knowing God could see far enough to know what "choice" would be arrived at.
    Isaiah 4610Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

    Consider this.
    Matthew 12

    33Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
    34O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
    35A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.


    These words to not appear accidentally or by coincidence.

    By personal belief is the Bible is not perfect, undiluted. When presented as such it is not understood. No other religion is perfect either.

    If you consider that "all things work together for the good...." Then maybe some reading in bhagavad gita, and some popularized quantum physics will do you some good too.

    I am not hoping to change anyone's belief. I have not read any of these scriptures for years. I do feel drawn to certain words as they crop up in our discussion as I recall their occurrences within the Bible. I search for them and bring them to you like a good servant would.

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