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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    There is NOTHING that humans can do that a significant percentage of the animal kingdom isn't doing also.

    Homosexuality happens in at least 1500 different species.
    But a lot of animals also eat their own...

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    I am not saying it is right or wrong.
    But practically any sexual act imaginable happens in hundreds or thousands of species. So to say that it is unnatural is wrong.

    Eating kids is natural yet wrong.
    Protecting kids is natural and right.
    Natural has no bearing on right or wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    I am not saying it is right or wrong.
    But practically any sexual act imaginable happens in hundreds or thousands of species. So to say that it is unnatural is wrong.

    Eating kids is natural yet wrong.
    Protecting kids is natural and right.
    Natural has no bearing on right or wrong.
    Bruno, I guess I just don't understand how this helped out the discussion in this thread. What you pointed out is a fact but actually irrelevant. Plus the last time I checked we are more than just an animal. Help me out if I didn't get what you were trying to convey.

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    Half of this thread is irrelevant to the OP.

    All Bruno was asking is that homosexuality not be referred to as unnatural. You can refer to it as wrong, immoral, evil, etc... but that it is incorrect to refer to it as unnatural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank47 View Post
    Bruno, I guess I just don't understand how this helped out the discussion in this thread. What you pointed out is a fact but actually irrelevant. Plus the last time I checked we are more than just an animal. Help me out if I didn't get what you were trying to convey.
    Well, in an earlier post, welshwizrd called homosexuality unnatural and wrong. And I have known several people call homosexuality wrong because it is unnatural.

    But it isn't unnatural.
    So if someone says it is wrong because it is unnatural, then they were either just making up arguments to support their moral ideas, or they will revise their judgement. I still don't say that it is wrong to think that homosexuality is wrong. But if someone tries to underpin it with reason instead of opinion, then those reasons had better check out.

    Since people are getting into the reasons why homosexuality is wrong (or not) I wanted to remove the naturality from the list of arguments.
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    IOW just stick with this argument:
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    To be fair then, and I don't have a dog in this fight, just because it is natural for some animals in the kingdom to be homosexual what is the rational for automatically imputing it on the human race? I'm just trying to keep the logic logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNSB View Post
    Half of this thread is irrelevant to the OP.

    All Bruno was asking is that homosexuality not be referred to as unnatural. You can refer to it as wrong, immoral, evil, etc... but that it is incorrect to refer to it as unnatural.
    Stemming off the claim a while back that raising children in a religious home is the same as child abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbshriver View Post
    Stemming off the claim a while back that raising children in a religious home is the same as child abuse.
    I wasn't saying it was bad to be off topic... I was just addressing a comment that someone else's comments were irrelevant because they were off topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank47 View Post
    To be fair then, and I don't have a dog in this fight, just because it is natural for some animals in the kingdom to be homosexual what is the rational for automatically imputing it on the human race? I'm just trying to keep the logic logical.
    It happens in the animal kingdom. Humans are just another example of it happening in the animal kingdom.

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