Thread: Need Wife Advice, Please Help!

Originally Posted by shavethebadger

I can understand your right to carry guns, shoot guns and show off guns, but I think that "Gun Crazy" may be the correct term for this situation. I mean, who talks to their "large" gun safe? Full Metal Jacket anyone?

"Paging Dr. Freud, Dr. Freud to SRP, please."

Whats wrong with "Big gun safes"? If I wasn't broke from self employeed and moving every 6 months I would definatly be buying a big gun safe! Granted I sold a vast majority of my guns before leaving Fayetteville, I still find myself with enough to wish I did in fact have a big gun safe...

Sort of Funny story... about 7 months ago, I gave this bumb some work. I had him do some painting and a little remodeling in a rental house I was staying in. I gave the guy $1200 for 10 days work cause the guy was sort of down on his luck type thing. Well, after that was all said and done, I got him a job as a carpenter with a guy I knew... he got fired cause he picked up the crack pipe and what not... so what does he do? He breaks into my house while im at work, steals my brothers Glock 17 (While my brothers fiance is in the house sleeping) and runs off. So, we find the gun missing when we get home of course and decide to go check around all the crack houses. My brother gets a little upset after no one wants to talk so he puts on some IBA and starts literally kicking in crack house doors... they start pointing fingers and 3 houses later, someone wants to sell our gun back after telling us who sold it to them... So we work out a deal and low and behold... the guy who stole our gun is trying to sneak into the house without us seeing... I wont say what happened, but I will say that 4 days later we seen him on a bicycle on I-10 with a sign that said "Flordia - Please Help"

And who says guns aren't fun!!!! =P

P.S. Yes, I was raised in Texas (Should explain a lot)

Billy, you missed the bit about Josh conversing with his gun safe. Go back to his post and you'll see the funny part (I hope) lol

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

Billy, you missed the bit about Josh conversing with his gun safe. Go back to his post and you'll see the funny part (I hope) lol

lol, whoops.... Yes, I ride the short bus.

Originally Posted by Billy

Whats wrong with "Big gun safes"? If I wasn't broke from self employeed and moving every 6 months I would definatly be buying a big gun safe! Granted I sold a vast majority of my guns before leaving Fayetteville, I still find myself with enough to wish I did in fact have a big gun safe...

P.S. Yes, I was raised in Texas (Should explain a lot)

Actually the majority for of my gunsafe is taken up by important (and not so important) papers I seem to squirrel away everything in writing: like any agreements the government makes me sign, which I have been assured they keep copies of lol, tax statements, the wifes passport, marriage certificates, jewelry, car insurance records, etc... Its fireproof and a great storage spot...very dry as well. I figure if someone can figure out a way to steal it, or break into it, they can have whats in it.

Originally Posted by JLStorm

Actually the majority for of my gunsafe is taken up by important (and not so important) papers I seem to squirrel away everything in writing: like any agreements the government makes me sign, which I have been assured they keep copies of lol, tax statements, the wifes passport, marriage certificates, jewelry, car insurance records, etc... Its fireproof and a great storage spot...very dry as well. I figure if someone can figure out a way to steal it, or break into it, they can have whats in it.

Tip: Govemental Agencys Suck At Keeping Up With Paper Work!!!! Always keep copies of everything!!! I lost my Air Assult papers and wasn't allowed to wear my wings because I didnt follow that rule.

Yeah, safes are great.... most are actually pretty easy to break into though... but they sort of make you feel good in a wierd way.... sort of like when Arnold opened his gun storage in that movie "Commando"

Originally Posted by Billy

Tip: Govemental Agencys Suck At Keeping Up With Paper Work!!!! Always keep copies of everything!!! I lost my Air Assult papers and wasn't allowed to wear my wings because I didnt follow that rule.

Yeah, safes are great.... most are actually pretty easy to break into though... but they sort of make you feel good in a wierd way.... sort of like when Arnold opened his gun storage in that movie "Commando"

Mine has 8 pretty large locking bolts and a Sargent & Greenleaf lock. I honestly think it would be easier for someone to take the safe out of the house than break into it...but either way, like I said...if they can break into it, they can have whats in it!

I dont have anything thats THAT important like your air assult papers in there. I have all the documents I have to sign when I leave the pentagon after each job, but honestly, the only stuff I might ever have thats really important or classified outside of a secure area would be information that I get sent by the DOD which later realizes that the info was classified but didnt know it at the time of transmission. In this case the information has to be destroyed ans should have been sent through a secure channel....its so rare ANYTHING is actually on paper anymore, at least with the departments that I deal with.

Probably the most sensitive things I keep in there are old birthday cards lol...but in either case I feel better havin it...plus its a GREAT place to store presents...there is no peeking anymore

Originally Posted by JLStorm

Mine has 8 pretty large locking bolts and a Sargent & Greenleaf lock. I honestly think it would be easier for someone to take the safe out of the house than break into it...but either way, like I said...if they can break into it, they can have whats in it!

I dont have anything thats THAT important like your air assult papers in there. I have all the documents I have to sign when I leave the pentagon after each job, but I dont think I actually have anything thatis classified in there....I think the pentagon keeps that all...I'd have to check....of course it is true...just because the government keeps a copy of it doesnt mean they could actually find it...but in that case I think thats a good thing for me...if they were ever looking for anything, I think that would be a bad sign lol.

If you want to check the integrity of your Safe... real the documentation you have on it... theres 2 big things you want to look for... a Hard plate, and some sort of soft cams in your Sargent & Greenleaf lock. Another thing that is good to look for, but very rare in consumer safes is ... um... cant recall the name for it, but its a glass plate that realeases a tone of locking bolts in the event that someone tries to drill and breaks the plate... they also have simular plates for thermal heat differences, but only in very high end safes... Most consumer safes have soft drill points near the combination dial so that Locksmiths can open your safe and find your combination in the event that you forget yours... this is most likely the case with yours... Not a big deal... but always something you should keep in mind when putting things away into your safe places!!

Secret documents usually aren't that big of a deal, they will send those home with you. Most 3 lvl (Secret) documents really dont contain anything secret lol... its sort of a silly system if you ask me... but thats the government for you. But your definatly right about keeping it, and finding it a different story ... Just remember, the people who handle your paperwork are low paid, low ranking goverment employee's who use terms like "Good enough for Government work". =P Sort of simular to the "Everything will be alright, this plane is made by professionals... who had the lowest bid and the cheapest parts"

Originally Posted by Billy

If you want to check the integrity of your Safe... real the documentation you have on it... theres 2 big things you want to look for... a Hard plate, and some sort of soft cams in your Sargent & Greenleaf lock. Another thing that is good to look for, but very rare in consumer safes is ... um... cant recall the name for it, but its a glass plate that realeases a tone of locking bolts in the event that someone tries to drill and breaks the plate... they also have simular plates for thermal heat differences, but only in very high end safes... Most consumer safes have soft drill points near the combination dial so that Locksmiths can open your safe and find your combination in the event that you forget yours... this is most likely the case with yours... Not a big deal... but always something you should keep in mind when putting things away into your safe places!!

Just remember, the people who handle your paperwork are low paid, low ranking goverment employee's who use terms like "Good enough for Government work". =P Sort of simular to the "Everything will be alright, this plane is made by professionals... who had the lowest bid and the cheapest parts"

Errr...my safe isnt THAT good...no glass no laser thermal imaging no heat sensors lol....but good enough that if someone actually breaks into it, I have a legal defense with the firearms that I took reasonable and appropriate precautions to keep my firearms secured. Everything in there is insured thats worth anything.

You are right about silly stuff being secret there are things that are red or yellow (secret or TS/SCI) that are only kept like that because no one I deal with actually knows what about the information is classified so its just ALL classified lol

Don't remind me about the planes, I fly too much!

Originally Posted by JLStorm

Errr...my safe isnt THAT good...no glass no laser thermal imaging no heat sensors lol....but good enough that if someone actually breaks into it, I have a legal defense with the firearms that I took reasonable and appropriate precautions to keep my firearms secured. Everything in there is insured thats worth anything.

You are right about silly stuff being secret there are things that are red or yellow (secret or TS/SCI) that are only kept like that because no one I deal with actually knows what about the information is classified so its just ALL classified lol

Don't remind me about the planes, I fly too much!

Keeping items in a safe would pretty much guarentee an insurance settlement as long as no one manipulated the lock which wouldn't show any signs of forced entree. And that is sort of hard to do, even locksmiths prefer to drill than manipulate locks.

Yeah, its takes one word for something to go classified, but and 2 month process to declassify... I'm sure you'll stumble onto some old forms you have to sign sometime or another that date back 50 years and are still classified only because no one ever declassified them. Its like, practically anyone can classify a document nearly instantly, but it takes months and a ton of signatures to declassify it. It all comes down to the "Good enough for government work" thing.

Haha, I hope you dont fly military hops... When I went Airborne, my father ridiculed me for volunteering to jump out of perfectly good planes... I had to remind him of the planes I was jumping out of... I'd rather jump than land! And if you ever get the pleasure of flying on a C-5 ... just know that when you land, that plane will be broken... like 99.9% of the time... Its crazy... everytime they land, something breaks!

Billy,
You,ve probably heard this but: "First week seperates the men from the boys. Second week seperates the men from the fools..." Wouldn't the record for air assault be in your permanent file ( Army 201 )?

Aircraft are built by trained professionals that were driving a cab the previous week.

Rick