Thread: This burns my bacon! More nanny state bureaucratic nonesense.

What is the exact law being used here to destroy America? I would like to read the text of it.

Originally Posted by LX_Emergency

I'm sorry....what?Why?

Maybe he is referring to the fact that some schools have banned peanuts in any form as being dangerous to kids with allergies.

Originally Posted by LX_Emergency

I'm sorry....what?



Why?

We're not allowed to send peanut butter or any peanut product to school due to peanut/nut allergies that other children may have.

There is a balance to strike,

My wife works at our local primary school (ages 4-11), if the school finds a child who is sent to school with an unhealthy meal on a regular basis then the parents would be contacted about it. The occasional bag of crisps (chips to Americans) is OK but if that was the daily mainstay then the school would speak to the parents. Peanut products are banned due to allergies and chocolate bars are banned too on the grounds of being unhealthy.

Obesity is a major problem and school is there not just to teach children how to read and write it is there to give them the skills for life. Currently we have the 1st generation predicted to live a shorter life than their parents so it is clear that many adults do no know how to feed themselves properly let alone their children.

We may call it a nanny state but who is expected to pick up the bill for problems associated with the increasing levels of obesity. In the UK its the state, I know there are differences in the US with welfare but presumably there are still costs incurred by the state relating to the numbers of obese people.

Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

What is the exact law being used here to destroy America? I would like to read the text of it.

Me too. And since I can't post anything under ten charaters I typed this....

Originally Posted by Jeltz

There is a balance to strike,

My wife works at our local primary school (ages 4-11), if the school finds a child who is sent to school with an unhealthy meal on a regular basis then the parents would be contacted about it. The occasional bag of crisps (chips to Americans) is OK but if that was the daily mainstay then the school would speak to the parents. Peanut products are banned due to allergies and chocolate bars are banned too on the grounds of being unhealthy.

Obesity is a major problem and school is there not just to teach children how to read and write it is there to give them the skills for life. Currently we have the 1st generation predicted to live a shorter life than their parents so it is clear that many adults do no know how to feed themselves properly let alone their children.

We may call it a nanny state but who is expected to pick up the bill for problems associated with the increasing levels of obesity. In the UK its the state, I know there are differences in the US with welfare but presumably there are still costs incurred by the state relating to the numbers of obese people.

I agree. There is a balance to strike. But doing it through law doesn't work. People still use drugs. Education is key. Why can't they put this as part of health class?

As far as the cost? That's why national healthcare wont work. If we can do whatever we want and not pay for it, then why not? If we can eat like slobs, get unhealthy and have someone else pick up the bill, then we will. The fundamental premis to our society is that we are individually responsible. We look out for ourselves. That's the caplitalist way. Granted, it's in society's intrest to look out for those who cant, but we shouldn't enable those who won't.

Originally Posted by Jeltz

There is a balance to strike,

My wife works at our local primary school (ages 4-11), if the school finds a child who is sent to school with an unhealthy meal on a regular basis then the parents would be contacted about it. The occasional bag of crisps (chips to Americans) is OK but if that was the daily mainstay then the school would speak to the parents. Peanut products are banned due to allergies and chocolate bars are banned too on the grounds of being unhealthy.

Obesity is a major problem and school is there not just to teach children how to read and write it is there to give them the skills for life. Currently we have the 1st generation predicted to live a shorter life than their parents so it is clear that many adults do no know how to feed themselves properly let alone their children.

We may call it a nanny state but who is expected to pick up the bill for problems associated with the increasing levels of obesity. In the UK its the state, I know there are differences in the US with welfare but presumably there are still costs incurred by the state relating to the numbers of obese people.

I may understand where you are coming from on this particular issue, relating to the children's food and I possibly agree.
But the statement highlighted, is very broad, to say the least. I do not want my child taught "life skills" by the school. The current influence of the majority of school teachers, especially middle school through college, does not follow the same path as mine. "Life Skills" covers many subjects too important, to be left to a stranger or current Administration's ideology.
I expect the school to teach my child , reading writing & arithmatic. Leave the "Life Skills" to the parents.
Jeltz, we are facing a crisis, here in America, that threatens the vary foundation that our Country was founded on. The Ground 0 for this is our own public school system. If some parents drop the ball, so to speak, in the "life skills" area,,,oh well,,,.
This does not give the government (public school system) the right to implement control based on the current Administration's ideology.

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

What part of the chicken is a nugget exactly?

I may be wrong, but I think it's the crotalus. Or the santorum.

Originally Posted by gugi

I may be wrong, but I think it's the crotalus. Or the santorum.

I'm pretty sure they're made of chicken lips.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

I may understand where you are coming from on this particular issue, relating to the children's food and I possibly agree.
But the statement highlighted, is very broad, to say the least. I do not want my child taught "life skills" by the school. The current influence of the majority of school teachers, especially middle school through college, does not follow the same path as mine. "Life Skills" covers many subjects too important, to be left to a stranger or current Administration's ideology.
I expect the school to teach my child , reading writing & arithmatic. Leave the "Life Skills" to the parents.
Jeltz, we are facing a crisis, here in America, that threatens the vary foundation that our Country was founded on. The Ground 0 for this is our own public school system. If some parents drop the ball, so to speak, in the "life skills" area,,,oh well,,,.
This does not give the government (public school system) the right to implement control based on the current Administration's ideology.

Not all life skills but healthy living, confidence, assertiveness, keeping fit etc. are the kind of non academic skills schools need to pass on to kids.

I used to walk a group of kids to school a couple of whom were there because their parents were happier staying in bed than getting their kid to school on time. One 8 year boy old arrived with his breakfast which was a bag of crisps (chips) he had had nothing else before his mother had pushed him out of the door in the morning. If school can give him the skills a better life than his mother then I'm all for it, that may seem like the extreme end of the spectrum but I live in a decent area and there were quite a few kids like him.