Thread: Where Do We Draw The Line?

Originally Posted by commiecat

Who's that?

Now that's a question and another can of worms for a whole other thread or three.

Bob

The run up to the 2012 Presidential election has temporarily held off a worsening Worldwide Depression that will be devastating to all of us. A positive? Atleast till November.

Originally Posted by Johnus

The run up to the 2012 Presidential election has temporarily held off a worsening Worldwide Depression that will be devastating to all of us. A positive? Atleast till November.

Are you saying there is someone so powerful he can control the worlds economic system at his will?

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Are you saying there is someone so powerful he can control the worlds economic system at his will?

Another reference to the Head of Marketing?

So anyone hear about Obama signing legislation making it a felony to protest the president/elected leaders? free speach anyone?? just saying...

Originally Posted by alb1981

So anyone hear about Obama signing legislation making it a felony to protest the president/elected leaders? free speach anyone?? just saying...

Yes, I heard about this and there is almost no coverage and absolutely no protest of the First Amendment violation.

The First Amendment was put there to protect political speech above all other type of speech.

McCain Feingold was a clear violation also.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Yes, I heard about this and there is almost no coverage and absolutely no protest of the First Amendment violation.

The First Amendment was put there to protect political speech above all other type of speech.

McCain Feingold was a clear violation also.

Crotalus, my friend, the writing is on the wall, it's re-education camp for us. His next piece of legislation will likely be the classic "I'm President for Life" manuever.

Originally Posted by alb1981

So anyone hear about Obama signing legislation making it a felony to protest the president/elected leaders? free speach anyone?? just saying...

He did no such thing. Just another manufactured controversy.


FactCheck.org : Obama Criminalize Free Speech?

factcheck.org leaves out the part that "willfully" was dropped from the language.

The law had bipartisan support - being authored by a republican in the house and a democrat in the senate. Both parties overwhelmingly voted for it.
Reading reports from sources slanted to both sides politically, it seems that the only people happy with the change to the law are the government. (how often do Fox news, Drudge, the Huffington post, and the ACLU all agree on anything?)


Whether it's a manufactured controversy or not remains to be seen - it does seem that there is more room now for federal law enforcement to abuse the law.
Any notion that one party or the other is responsible is ridiculous. Both parties worked together to make the change.

Originally Posted by HNSB

factcheck.org leaves out the part that "willfully" was dropped from the language.....

No it doesn't. The second bullet point under the heading Manufactured Controversy clearly states: "The new law revises the standard that prosecutors must meet to gain a conviction, from proving that a violation was committed “willfully and knowingly” to merely proving that it was committed “knowingly.”

In any event the point remains that the law in question had nothing to do with making it a felony to protest the president or elected leaders. Sometimes when something sounds too crazy to be true it is because it isn't.