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    Yeah. I skimmed it too quickly and missed that; I was expecting to see it somewhere more prominent.
    When I went back now and read it again, it does address concerns about the loosening of the language and what that means - even addressing possible misuse by law enforcement agencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1OldGI View Post
    Crotalus, my friend, the writing is on the wall, it's re-education camp for us. His next piece of legislation will likely be the classic "I'm President for Life" manuever.
    NOT while I still have a breath left in my body.

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    aaaand you just went on the watch list...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNSB View Post
    aaaand you just went on the watch list...
    Thats fine with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarus View Post
    He did no such thing. Just another manufactured controversy.


    FactCheck.org : Obama Criminalize Free Speech?
    Isn't this what they do during protests. From HR347

    knowingly, and with intent to impede or disrupt the
    orderly conduct of Government business or official functions,
    engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such
    proximity to, any restricted building or grounds when, or so
    that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly
    conduct of Government business or official functions;
    ‘‘(3) knowingly, and with the intent to impede or disrupt
    the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions,
    obstructs or impedes ingress or egress to or from any restricted
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    For those wishing to find conspiracy and put a noose around someones neck it takes very little substance to start the ball rolling. Once the ball starts to roll it just picks up more and more dirt until it has a life of it's own.

    The change in the law is a minor technical issue and will have little effect except to have some folks use it for all it's worth. Knowingly is the important word there. Willfully is more degree. Practically you could claim someone duped you into violation and you just didn't realize. That's really the change.

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    Where Do We Draw The Line?
    Knowingly was pushing it, but I draw the line at willingly!

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    Let's keep an eye on Space-X. We now have an opportunity to watch as the private sector takes over an industry that has been run, or subsidized, by the federal government for years. It will be interesting to observe whether the private sector creates more competition, jobs, efficiency, profit, tax revenues, and an acceleration in technology development. Yes the feds got us to the moon and back way back in the 60's, but since then? Now that private industry is taking over I suspect that things will move along a bit faster.
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    Nasa has done a bit more than that. Top 25 things NASA has done | National Aeronautics And Space Administration celebrates 50th anniversary | The Sun |News

    Even if Space-X wins a contract to be an interstellar FedEx, it is still federal money though. Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by honedright View Post
    Let's keep an eye on Space-X. We now have an opportunity to watch as the private sector takes over an industry that has been run, or subsidized, by the federal government for years. It will be interesting to observe whether the private sector creates more competition, jobs, efficiency, profit, tax revenues, and an acceleration in technology development. Yes the feds got us to the moon and back way back in the 60's, but since then? Now that private industry is taking over I suspect that things will move along a bit faster.

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    We pay tax dollars for services. We assume that because our tax dollars are spent publicly that federal entities will somehow perform services to a higher degree or standard. But is that necessarily true? Why isn't it just as feasible that a private entity will perform those same services to the same standard, or even better?

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