Thread: What the Heck...For Real?!?!

Originally Posted by Bruno

Draconian rules and a school board with zero common sense and blind adherency to policy?
Since when is that un-American?

Too true, Bruno. Too true.

An allergic reaction may occur if you inhale dust or aerosols containing peanuts (if your smelling it your inhaling it), as far as the door knob, even tiny amounts of peanuts can cause a reaction, even skin contact. The problem with your theory is your assuming that this person will know they touched a smeared peanut butter killing door knob. Or better yet someone else touched it and then touched them. How many times do you touch your face in a day, mouth? you probably don't even know, I don't either but I'm guessing it's more than you think. Now think how a child is in school and around other children. I mean if you don't have a peanut allergy or don't deal with someone who does, you don't know? It's easier to sit back and read one night on the subject and make assumptions and not think through what you read or are saying, I've been dealing with it for 7 years......doorknob.... jeez....really?

I vote for strawberry jelly or jam

Originally Posted by Trimmy72

An allergic reaction may occur if you inhale dust or aerosols containing peanuts (if your smelling it your inhaling it), as far as the door knob, even tiny amounts of peanuts can cause a reaction, even skin contact. The problem with your theory is your assuming that this person will know they touched a smeared peanut butter killing door knob. Or better yet someone else touched it and then touched them. How many times do you touch your face in a day, mouth? you probably don't even know, I don't either but I'm guessing it's more than you think. Now think how a child is in school and around other children. I mean if you don't have a peanut allergy or don't deal with someone who does, you don't know? It's easier to sit back and read one night on the subject and make assumptions and not think through what you read or are saying, I've been dealing with it for 7 years......doorknob.... jeez....really?

I vote for strawberry jelly or jam

I have a number of allergies. Lucky for me, mine are easy enough to avoid.
However, I do have a strawberry allergy that could kill me, as well as some others that 'merely' have me break out with hives across my entire body for 4 days, or making me sit in the porcelain seat for a long time.

Whenever I go eat at a restaurant, I have to make a consideration of how 'safe' the different options are, how likely a dish might affect me. And when it comes to desert, I don't eat anything that vaguely looks red because it 'might' contain strawberry, even if the cook thinks it doesn't.

So I do know what I am talking about when it comes to allergies. Granted, some allergies are more easy to live with than others. Strawberries are easier to avoid than nuts. Yet recently (abroad) my paranoia paid off and I discovered a strawberry where there should not have been one.

In any case, if 1 person has a problem with nuts, the solution is not to ban everything with a trace of nuts. The person with the allergy should be the first to take responsibility. The people close to him or her should know the problem and be mindful about it. But a draconian ban like that is unfair.

The comparison with smoking does not apply. I could be halfway through a meal and some inconsiderate guy next to me could light up and blow his smoke across my steak. You can avoid nut contamination by simply avoiding contamination even if people around you are eating peanuts. You can't avoid smoke.

My 7 year old girl has someone in her class that suffer from a severe case of peanut allergy.
While I don't think the school has put a ban in place, all other parents have been given notice about the situation for that kid.
They have recommended we all avoid sending our kids to school with something that would potentially be lethal to a fellow student.

The inconvinience my girl might suffer from our self-inflicted ban, is quite simply totally irrelevant, and she has learned very well by now that expressing such selfish thoughts are not received warmly with her parents...

It is one option less as a spread on her sandwich, we have 50 others.
I fail to see why this would be hard to respect for any responsible adult to be honest.

I agree with you, that this is up to the parents / children.
And if your kid is sitting next to someone who may die because of contamination, your reaction is applaudable.
If however your kid would not be allowed peanut butter on her sandwich because there is a kid with an allergy somewhere else in the school, or in a different part of the lunchroom (asusming table layout is fixed), it would be over the top imo.

IF PB is out, how about nutella? Other types of chocolate spread which may (do) contain nuts or traces or nuts?
Snickers bar?
Nuts bar?
Fererro rocher?

Originally Posted by Bruno

IF PB is out, how about nutella? Other types of chocolate spread which may (do) contain nuts or traces or nuts?
Snickers bar?
Nuts bar?
Fererro rocher?

That is easily handled really.
We do check, within reason, the contents of all food she brings with her to school.
If it contains nuts, or traces thereof, she will simply not bring that.

As for the candy bars, well, there is absolutely no chance my kids will ever bring candy to school.
The reasons for that has nothing to do with any allergies.
My kids do eat candy, but we give them that for kid-tv on Saturday evenings.
Other than that, no candy!

Originally Posted by honedright

Individual: "Gosh, this place allows smokers. I think I will choose another establishment that caters to non-smokers."

Individual: "Damn it, there are no establishments that cater to non-smokers in this community. I think I will open my own business that DOES cater to non-smokers."



Individual: "Now I have a choice, I can choose smoking, or non-smoking establishments."

I think you might want to change your last line to:

Individual: "Damn it, I know nothing about cooking, running a buisiness or Restaurant service....oh well I'm screwed I guess."

Because opening a restaurant simply because you want to eat somewhere where they don't smoke is a touch excessive not to mention not as easy as you make it sound.

Perhaps the solution is Home Schooling ???? I know many parents up here don't believe in Public Schooling for many other reasons too, but seems if I were that worried about an errent Peanut, I would protect my child from them fully by not putting them in danger rather then trusting the other Parents and children to protect my child..

I never trust others for my safety in any situation, so I sure wouldn't in this one either...

I guess my thoughts here are them same as any other life threating situation ..
First defense is always to avoid it if possible..

Keep in mind I am a non-kid person, so I might be missing something here, and don't take this wrong, but up here many people do not vaccinate their dogs, and although our two loved the Dog Park in Colorado they are not allowed to go here, I don't want them sick...

So to me it seems as though anyone that has a kid that could Die from something that could be at the school by a simple innocent mistake maybe should protect their child better and keep them safe by Home Schooling

At least through Elementary ages until the kid is a bit more conscious of the dangers, also from the reading I was doing it seems that many children out grow peanut allergies...

I'm beginning to regret starting this thread.