Thread: This guy was definitely born in the wrong century

And for the last 40 years Democrats have been the champion of minority rights whilst the GOP have become a club for "rich white men". Go figure!
I'm well aware of the stratification of the Civil Rights movement. Sometimes I just don't understand/can't believe/am totally flabbergasted by some people's personal beliefs when it escapes their mouths.

Seriously - when a person is running for a seat in any political arena, pay close attention to what they are saying. When he or she espouses that they stand for "Christian values," don't just cheer and say this person is an ethical person! There are many brands of Christianity... very many!

Ask them exactly what christian values they believe in. When they ramble off that they believe in "hometown" beliefs and family... seriously, take note that the KKK is a family! Ask exactly do they think "family" values are!

It may seem simple and clear-cut but it isn't. Not at all. Ask! My definition of faith, family, and ethics isn't yours and just because some dude is famous, making a bazillion bucks, or has been in the public eye for years... doesn't make her a good person.

Well thanks for letting me rant lol .

Excellent points, David!

Southerners had to defend slavery somehow, even by justifying the barbaric practice. It had become so engrained in the culture no one could think correctly. Even Thomas Jefferson justified slavery by stating that Africans were not as intellectually capable as whites. He did admit that blacks had certain talents, such as singing but probably could not grasp the complexity of classical music. Anyway, slavers began looking at the whole system as a form of paternalism, saving the black savages from their own stupidity. Racism is as racism does. To be fair, I think Northerners are just as racist. It is just in a different form. Blacks were ostracized and cut off, relegated to ghettoes. How could they get ahead in the world? The end result was the two headed snake of inequality and racism. The snake began to slowly devour its own self. Anyway, getting of my liberal soap box.

Mephisto, once again you make outstanding observations. Thank you.
Growing up in B.C. the common targets for racism were (and still are) Asians and First Nations ("Indians"). Living in northern B.C. I had little (actually no) experience with the former, and a great deal with the latter.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

So.....how did he get elected? Someone must agree with his views and I don't think any of them are democrats.

Nelson, surely you are old enough to remember the "Dixiecrats". LBJ was one of them, the only reason he pushed for the Civil Rights Act is so that blacks singing "We Shall Overcome" night and day outside the White House would cease and let him sleep. If it werent for the Republicans in the House and Senate, the Dixie Democrats would have never allowed it.

In all honesty, Democrats have done little for minorities other than enslaving them to the Democrats by throwing tax money at them. Buying votes.The little they have actually accomplished is terribly diminished by the harm they have done.


Furthermore, although the South was the home and the mouthpiece for the KKK, there were far more members in the northern states than in the south, this is also where the money came from.

An interesting read would be a book entitled "Billy Yank", it is about Northern soldiers involved in the Civil War, within it are the perceptions of Union men towards blacks. Very enlightening.

I do not live in the deep south but deep enough. Richmond was the capital during the confederacy so the remnants of that war remain here in some form, usually in monuments or in prejudice. In many ways, Virginia has moved on. Interracial dating, though not common, occurs without fear of being lynched. Anyway, our early history has always perplexed me. We were inspired by the great enlightenment thinkers but the social contract was only meant for some. Well, if you were male and white and certain kind of white. The Irish were looked on as trash. I read a paper in school that addresses that issue. The Irish and black would socialize a lot in Richmond since they were both looked down upon by those of English descent.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

Furthermore, although the South was the home and the mouthpiece for the KKK, there were far more members in the northern states than in the south, this is also where the money came from.

Gaines, MI once had a visible KKK chapter through the 1960s, although I'm sure they've gone underground in recent years.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

In all honesty, Democrats have done little for minorities other than enslaving them to the Democrats by throwing tax money at them. Buying votes.The little they have actually accomplished is terribly diminished by the harm they have done.

I am not trying to be combative when I ask this, and I could be reading you wrong but so many say it that...

Well let me say this. Were I illegally convicted of a crime - were YOU illegally convicted of a crime - you better be sure we would be going after the state, feds and anyone else involved for compensation! As in, tons of compensation! And Blacks were wrongfully convicted!! They are owed compensation if you ask me!

Now before anyone says yeah but that was so long ago... sure the civil war was, but my folks would have gone to segregated schools if they lived here in KS! It's not been all that long - and certainly not long enough to correct not just one wrong, but generations of wrong.

So what moneys are "we" throwing at "them" that they don't justly deserve?

Seriously - I am not being combative - I just don't get the mindset is all.

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

Gaines, MI once had a visible KKK chapter through the 1960s, although I'm sure they've gone underground in recent years.

Canada is rife with neo-nazi groups.