Thread: This guy was definitely born in the wrong century

WTH is going on south of the Mason-Dixon Line?!?!

Charlie Fuqua, Arkansas Legislative Candidate, Endorses Death Penalty For Rebellious Children In Book

There is nothing going on that wasn't always going on. There are a lot of nuts who have spent the last who knows how many years living under a rock somewhere and now they have come out and are banding together and are trying to take over.

As far as people just getting along unfortunately it's a Human trait that folks dislike anyone who is not like them. The more different the more they dislike them. It's only law that forces people to get along. Even in places where the population is really small and homogeneous they find something different enough about some segment of the population to cause them to hate them. People have always slaughtered each other for no other reason. It still goes on today.

Actually, slavery has been hanging around in a different form for a while - convict labor. Many Americans (and Canadians) are all for it. The government can get free labour (like making license plates, highway shoulder cleanup) or can get some cash by renting out the slaves to private enterprises. You can justify it any which way you want.. In the end it boils down to slave labor. Let the economy tank a little more, make up a few more criminal offenses and this practice can easily become more mainstream.

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

Actually, slavery has been hanging around in a different form for a while - convict labor. Many Americans (and Canadians) are all for it. The government can get free labour (like making license plates, highway shoulder cleanup) or can get some cash by renting out the slaves to private enterprises. You can justify it any which way you want.. In the end it boils down to slave labor. Let the economy tank a little more, make up a few more criminal offenses and this practice can easily become more mainstream.

Yeah I see what you are saying, but no. The fact of the mater is, with convicts they knew of the societal consequences before they committed the crime. Those acts that are considered acts done in the "heat of the moment" like killing someone when you walk into you house and find your best friend and your wife... are pleaded down to manslaughter - not murder for example.

Slaves and slavery in it's truest form is when one takes an others freedom with no mutual contract.

Just saying...

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

So.....how did he get elected? Someone must agree with his views and I don't think any of them are democrats.

+1.

The R next to his name means he does represent the republican party. That's kind of the point of being an 'elected representative'.

Originally Posted by Bruno

+1.

The R next to his name means he does represent the republican party. That's kind of the point of being an 'elected representative'.

We get what we vote for. Fortunately or unfortunately?

Originally Posted by earcutter

Yeah I see what you are saying, but no. The fact of the mater is, with convicts they knew of the societal consequences before they committed the crime. Those acts that are considered acts done in the "heat of the moment" like killing someone when you walk into you house and find your best friend and your wife... are pleaded down to manslaughter - not murder for example.

Slaves and slavery in it's truest form is when one takes an others freedom with no mutual contract.

Just saying...

The problem is that as soon as money enters the equation, the legal system loses its integrity. In your country, it's become quite an industry (we keep an eye on that as our moderate right wing government is trying to emulate the US model). There was a case of a judge sending people to prison for offences where standard sentencing practices would have called for probation because he was receiving kickbacks from the private prison operator for every kid he sent to their facility. Also, you have prison corporations lobbying for tougher criminal laws and mandatory sentencing simply because the more people are sent to prison, the more money they make.

Put people who make money off forced labor into the equation and don't tell me that they aren't gonna be brib.. buy.. lobb.. "golf" their congressmen to turn more law-abiding Americans into criminals with a stroke of the pen. The other problem I have with forced prison labour is that for every prisoner working for free or $1 per hour, one law-abiding hard-working American has to tell his family he can't put food on the table. Make forced labour more mainstream and you have more law-abiding Americans out of work and wondering what they got out of toeing the line and looking for ways to feed their families on the other side of it.

One of the reasons Republicans are always touting states rights and weak Govt at the Federal Level is because the folks who pay their way can easily control a State Legislature. Just look at states where 1 or 2 industries are the main employers and you'll see what happens. Look at areas where states regulate what goes on and with few exceptions it's like a kid at a candy store. Industries know at the Federal Level it's more difficult and expensive to get their way while at the State level it's cheap and easy. Off course no one will admit this. They find other excuses. Just look at the states with the super fund sites and mining states as quick examples.

And this does not happen at the Federal level? Like bailouts for the banks, automakers and "green companies that go under before even going online? Corporations becoming persons? This happened at the Federal level with a Democrat as President with a super majority in both houses. Your argument fails.

I dont blame anyone for an honest bashing of the Republican party or the dolts the political machine put before us, but you need to fix the lipstick on your pig before doing so, and vice versa.

BTW How about my favorite monopoly, the FED, making everyones life worth a little less everyday, no matter who is in office.

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

The problem is that as soon as money enters the equation, the legal system loses its integrity. In your country, it's become quite an industry (we keep an eye on that as our moderate right wing government is trying to emulate the US model). There was a case of a judge sending people to prison for offences where standard sentencing practices would have called for probation because he was receiving kickbacks from the private prison operator for every kid he sent to their facility. Also, you have prison corporations lobbying for tougher criminal laws and mandatory sentencing simply because the more people are sent to prison, the more money they make.

Put people who make money off forced labor into the equation and don't tell me that they aren't gonna be brib.. buy.. lobb.. "golf" their congressmen to turn more law-abiding Americans into criminals with a stroke of the pen. The other problem I have with forced prison labour is that for every prisoner working for free or $1 per hour, one law-abiding hard-working American has to tell his family he can't put food on the table. Make forced labour more mainstream and you have more law-abiding Americans out of work and wondering what they got out of toeing the line and looking for ways to feed their families on the other side of it.

There is all kinds of human trafficking and modern-day slavery. It's bad in the Middle East.

Nightmare in Dreamland- Modern Day Slavery in the Middle East. An Ethiopian journey | Viral Africa

But Canada has it's problems too. Here is a Canadian site: End Modern Day Slavery

The judge and case you are referring to in the States is horrible, and a form of slavery... I guess - but at least it was discovered (because people have representation in America) and stopped.