Thread: Potential Ban/Brady Bill part deux?

Originally Posted by Cangooner

US Constitutional History 101 continued...

Considering that the relevant bit (2nd amendment) was itself by definition the result of an amendment to the original constitution, one thing I've never understood is the absolute and complete opposition to any mention of even considering amending (even by way of clarification) that particular amendment. Have other constitutional amendments themselves been amended? I don't know if that is even possible (again, I plead ignorance on these issues), but if other amendments have themselves been amended or superseded, what exactly is it that makes the second amendment so sacred? Is it simply the association made between the right to bear arms and freedom as illustrated by Mr. Jefferson?

Thanks Professor Wullie!

The answer to your question is yes, it is all about the public being able to defend their liberty. What you have to remember is that these people at one time were loyal BRITISH serving the crown, until they could no longer tolerate the demands of the crown. Our Founding Fathers wrote this into the Constitution in the event we should need it again.

BTW The 2nd Amendment is not an amendment at all, as amendments are amendable, what we carelessly call the first 10 Amendments( The Bill of Rights) are actually the first Articles of the Constitution and are not amendable.....in theory.

Originally Posted by shooter74743

Out of curiosity I checked out www.gunbroker.com where I buy a lot of parts to build AR-15's, you can't find any lowers anywhere & if you do they are literally $500 each...I usually buy them for around $110. What have you guys been hearing?

In 1996 after the semi-auto and pump action shotguns were banned here, prices on all firearms went through the roof. Prices are still relatively high, even now. Funny thing is, we can have pump action rifles and lever action shotguns ( Albeit, magazine restrictions are also in place. And we still have all the 'banned' stuff for those that have the proper excuses and the right licence for it), so I fail to see how any of the law changes did much of anything except make it more difficult for the honest gun owning citizen.


Mick

It's all feel good legislation! That doesn't do much of anything, but a peace the masses. About the only thing I'm in favor of restricting, is the straw hats sales (private citizen sales of guns), we need back grounds checks on those. But the gun industry opposes it, it will slow down sales. I'm also in favor of mental competence. The only thing is, you can be fine one year, buy gun ,then go bunker the next and no mental expert can know that by giving you a test. We have to be carfull here too, it could lend itself to abuse of power by the medical community. Double O

Quotes by Jefferson are revered mainly because he is saying what the person quoting wants to hear. If another founding father believed in high taxes or for guns to be locked up except upon invasion or whatever they wouldn't be quoted nearly as often.


Most of these quotes were posted on the "Founding Fathers Forum" in 1788 ok so they didn't really have a forum like we do so they posted in the papers of the day... These are just a few, I can go on for days...



“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American…[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”

Tenche Coxe


“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.”

George Mason

To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws.”

John Adams

“[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation…[where] the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”

James Madison


“And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms…”

Sam Adams


“The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them.”

Zachariah Johnson





I think this one right here bears repeating !!!!!

Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American

Was at the docs office this morning and his nurse told me she wants her CHL so I gave her one of my buddy's cards.
Was really interesting hearing her points of view.

Originally Posted by scap99

Was at the docs office this morning and his nurse told me she wants her CHL so I gave her one of my buddy's cards.
Was really interesting hearing her points of view.

Yeah I am getting a bit of e-mail from my Non -Shooting friends lately asking questions, it is rather interesting to hear, their reasons for all of a sudden deciding that now is the time..
Many of these people have been friends since the Clinton era and that never prompted them to become gun owners, a small few are Obama supporters too, which of course I busted on them for but it seemed funny that now they are seeing that a right is still a right, and they want it...

Silence is golden.

I'm not a fan of The Washington (com)Post, nor am I particularly fond of anything Krauthammer has to say. I just read his op-ed column and in this particular instance, I think he's pretty much on the mark.

Charles Krauthammer: The roots of mass murder - The Washington Post

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Deer hunting after the Anointed one gets finished with our gun rights

Bwahaha! That's awesome.

However, baiting will not be tolerated. :hide:

Originally Posted by Magpie

I suppose you have all already forgotten the Warsaw ghetto uprisings.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

Then again, not many Europeans would consider Poland as a part of Western Europe...