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    Cool, Roy! I can see it fine. It was also interesting to read through the patent Martin provided. I don't necessarily agree with all of it, but I suppose as getting a patent granted, some advantages must be claimed! Fun reading! Sort of like advertising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    It was also interesting to read through the patent Martin provided. I don't necessarily agree with all of it, but I suppose as getting a patent granted, some advantages must be claimed! Fun reading! Sort of like advertising.
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    @Cadarunner: Your Razor is an "Eisenbart" (ger. Iron Beard) Razor, made in France possibly since the 1930s.
    The Tang has one of two known Marks "Stahlwarenfabrik" (ger. ~ Hardware Factory) "Friseurwerk" (ger. ~ Barber Supply Works / Factory), other Eisenbart Razors could be Marked "Solingen Typ".
    Eisenbart

    I dont know who made these Razors but Eisenbart wasnt the only TM, at least one other had been produced, called "Jäger" (ger. Hunter or a type of infantry soldier in older Germany Jäger (military) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), heres a Pic of a Jäger (Jager) Razor where you can see the similarities to the Eisenbart:
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    and here with the Original Box:
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    In my Eyes these Razor stand in a row with a couple of other Razors that had been made in France using german or gemrman alike TM´s such as "Olympic, gehärtet und geschlagen in Solingen" (hardened and hammered in Solingen) "Auf Maschinen Solinger Art hohlgeschliffen" (Grounded on Machines of Solingen Type, im sure this means the ERN´s Double Wheel Hollow Grinder), Olympic TM was used by Pierre Thiers & Fils. Other german sounding TM´s had been "Widerstrahl" (old ger. luminous glare, used by Champredon Cognet), "Brücke" (ger. Bridge) or "Bechtal".
    Its a kind of mystery why french Manufactorers used german TM´s for french Razors, i dont think they exported Razors to Germany and i dont think that they really needed the Word Solingen on their Razors to show Quality because French Razors are the same high Quality like Solingen, Sheffield and many US Manufactorers such as Genco and many others by my experience.
    Maybe they had been made to be sold to germans during german occupation of france in WW2 or french Manufatorers had been forced to use them, but thats only an assumption.
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    Thanks Rockabilly, I took the liberty of copying one of the pictures to show that if you look closely at my faded etch it's an exact match.

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    Sorry guys, I hadn't posted what was on the shank, I did send it to Rockabilly here's what it says;

    Stahlwarenfabrik
    Frisfurwerk

    The above is all that is on the shank and no mention of Solingen. the back is plain and nary of any sign of having once been stamped or etched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillyhelge View Post
    Its a kind of mystery why french Manufactorers used german TM´s for french Razors, i dont think they exported Razors to Germany and i dont think that they really needed the Word Solingen on their Razors to show Quality because French Razors are the same high Quality like Solingen, Sheffield and many US Manufactorers such as Genco and many others by my experience.
    Maybe they had been made to be sold to germans during german occupation of france in WW2 or french Manufatorers had been forced to use them, but thats only an assumption.
    Or maybe they were located in the part of France/Germany that historically switched from one nationality to the other depending on the wind of the decade. Lots of bilingual people there...
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    You mean Alsace & Lorraine, this could be :-)

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    Damn Tom! That's a real Beaut! Makes me wish I hadn't just sold my only Suredge...

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    It's part of you 'Job Description' to warn me next time...before I do something like that!

    Nice work Tom!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack34 View Post
    Damn Tom! That's a real Beaut! Makes me wish I hadn't just sold my only Suredge...

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    It's part of you 'Job Description' to warn me next time...before I do something like that!

    Nice work Tom!
    Have those scales got a hammered/ textured finish or is it just a trick of the light? If they do it compliments the tang nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack34 View Post
    Damn Tom! That's a real Beaut! Makes me wish I hadn't just sold my only Suredge...



    It's part of you 'Job Description' to warn me next time...before I do something like that!

    Nice work Tom!
    Thanks, Mike! In the future, NEVER do that!
    Quote Originally Posted by edhewitt View Post
    Have those scales got a hammered/ textured finish or is it just a trick of the light? If they do it compliments the tang nicely.
    Hammered tang, Ed. That example IS quite nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    Thanks, Mike! In the future, NEVER do that!


    Hammered tang, Ed. That example IS quite nice!
    Hey tom, i know the tang is hammered, i was wondering a out the scales
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