Thread: Jackets

Man, I just suffered 12 hours of misery at work, I wish you were around at nights to keep me company, now I will be awake all day thinking of answers to all of these options.

Originally Posted by edhewitt

Man, I just suffered 12 hours of misery at work, I wish you were around at nights to keep me company, now I will be awake all day thinking of answers to all of these options.

One of us has to sleep at night to be able to think up these questions, so the other has to think on them through the day! Can I help it if you don't have a life during daylight hours?!...Besides the one I provide for you.


Mick

I think the hat is going to depend on the rest of the clothes, for example, a cloth cap would go with the jacket, whereas a full face balaclava would go with the bowtie. The rest I will ponder in my sleep, after I have dashed over to the breakfast thread. Enjoy your weekend, whatever you are doing.

Here's my vote for a lid for Carl. An Akubra Campdraft would accomplish the same effect but this remake of the 1940's Stetson Stratoliner is just cat's a$$!
Stetson Fashion Collection 1940s Stratoliner Fur Felt Fedora Hat

Besides the Campdrafts come unbashed (i.e. top of the hat has no dents or creases) so unless you know what your doing, making it look this good will be tough.

Carl, please tell me your attempt to be hip won't involve a bald guy ponytail (i.e. George Carlin, Gallagher, Jesse Ventura)

Originally Posted by MickR

And I was gonna take the p!ss about the great goblet of wine in the background too, but you already admitted to it, so the joy of a bit of slagging is gone. The jacket looks nice mate, but I would have bought a real bow-tie and not just a clip on/around.


Mick

Yes, it was a nice goblet. I'll tell you a secret, I drank the whole bottle! Believe it or not, when the guy in the shop showed me the bow tie in the shop I asked if it was one you needed to tie. He said 'No, I don't even know how to tie one of those'. I was surprised, I've seen a lot of info on line about how to tie them and I thought it would be required knowledge of someone working in a 'gentlemans' clothing store'.

He was probably a kiddy fiddler .

Originally Posted by carlmaloschneider

Yes, it was a nice goblet. I'll tell you a secret, I drank the whole bottle! Believe it or not, when the guy in the shop showed me the bow tie in the shop I asked if it was one you needed to tie. He said 'No, I don't even know how to tie one of those'. I was surprised, I've seen a lot of info on line about how to tie them and I thought it would be required knowledge of someone working in a 'gentlemans' clothing store'.

Then I'll ask you a question; Why did you bother with the damn goblet? Why not just swill it straight from the glass it came in? Ok that's two questions...


Some years ago, while working as an Loss Prevention Officer/Store Detective/Security Guard or what ever you want to call those people that do that sort of thing, the people working in the Men's Fashion area couldn't even tie a Full Windsor Knot, let alone a Bow Tie. Anytime it was required to "Demonstrate to Sir", they would call Security for me to do it for them. I offered to teach them but it was always "not just now" etc...Now I haven't had to tie a tie of any kind for a long time, and I think I might need to give myself a refresher course as well. I have a book on such things, to learn from.


Mick

A trick a friend used was to buy a proper bow tie and a ready tied one, then towards the end of the evening would go to the toilet and swap them, leaving the proper one untied. Obviously you would need two in the same pattern, or at least very similar. An opportunity to play with people's perception.
I have only tied a real bow tie once I think, and I can't even remember when or where I would have worn it, maybe I was just mucking around in the formal wear shop my friend worked at. Anyway the point is that you should be able to pick it up reasonably easily. Perhaps valeting is an education path you could look at opening at work. I am sure some gentlemen would have use for a gentleman's gentleman with some of the unique skill sets of your clients.
There might be something in the gentleman's Gazette somewhere too Carl.
Mick I always seemed to run out of tie when doing the full Windsor, are you suposed to only wrap once after each pass over the knot? I think I always did two. When fat tie knots were trendy for a while a lot of people just tied them really loose, you could spot it a mile off, I should note that I was not wearing fat knots at this point.

Once would have sufficed Ed, if I'm reading you correctly. Chicken necks and short people might manage two, but regular types not usually.


Mick

Originally Posted by MickR

Once would have sufficed Ed, if I'm reading you correctly. Chicken necks and short people might manage two, but regular types not usually.


Mick

Right here goes
1 tie draped over neck, collar up
2 wrap fat side of tie round thin side (twice)
3 push fat side over top of knot
4 if a standard (school) tie push under top layer of knot on the outside of the tie and tighten, put thin half through tie label on back of tie, unless you have a tie pin.
5 if its a half windsor, after step 3 wrap fat part around knot again, repeat steps 3 and 4.
6 for a full Windsor, after step 3, go to step 5, after step 5 repeat, but wrap the fat end around the knot in the oposite direction, repeat steps 3 and 4.
I think it was on steps 5 and or 6 that I used up all my tie, if I wrapped twice, but maybe even once, it was years ago that I used to wear ties, its a bit bloody hot in WA for such things.