Thread: Motorcycles

Yeah, I raced motocross up until about January of 09 when I bought a Buell Blast. It's a great little cafe racer, especially to learn how to ride the streets. I really miss racing in the dirt though- there's just something about hauling ass up to a jump and experiencing zero gravity for a few seconds.

Technically you'd pull right to go left, pull left to go right. Whatever side you push on, you'll turn in that direction.

Had one ever since I was 16, Current mount is Suzuki C50 Boulevard. Got it for a good price as my sister works at the dealership. It's real bling bling eye candy. Pity that so many of the parts are chromed plastic though. Been raining on and off for a couple of weeks, tomorrow looks promising, I think that a ride is in order.
Be careful out there

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

Some dirtbiking skills do apply, but there are some key areas like steering that are totally different (you do it backwards). The main thing that is the same is being vigilant and aware of everything.

Countersteering is a natural thing, you probably do it dirtbiking as well. To be honest, you do it on everything with two wheels from the heaviest slowest pushbike to the fastest and lightest motorcycles, I wouldn't think about it too much.

I really need to get my bike on the road again.

Originally Posted by gregs656

Countersteering is a natural thing, you probably do it dirtbiking as well. To be honest, you do it on everything with two wheels from the heaviest slowest pushbike to the fastest and lightest motorcycles, I wouldn't think about it too much.

I really need to get my bike on the road again.

Not in motocross/supercross. You point the front wheel in the direction you want to go and hang on for dear life.

EDIT: In fact, you can see proof of it in my avatar. That was a hairpin corner and I am definitely not countersteering. I was also one of the fastest through the corner.

I promised pictures!


The first pictures of the white bike are me, the red and yellow bikes are friends, and the last two are me . (last one is to make sure you only look at the pictures once xd)

Don't get any ideas about the guys on the red and yellow bikes, they've been riding bikes for many many more years then me and I consider them to be some of the best riders and guys I know, and I know alot of both! I'm probably making upwards of 30 feet distance and 8-12 feet air, hard to tell when you're up there. the other guys' jumps are respectable seen in person, besides, how well can you expect a 40 year old to jump?


Wow, ffs.

I went over the upload limit, hang on i'll link to photobucket lol.


By the way, I made this jump hundreds (literally) of times to get these pictures, so you better enjoy them!

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

Not in motocross/supercross. You point the front wheel in the direction you want to go and hang on for dear life.

EDIT: In fact, you can see proof of it in my avatar. That was a hairpin corner and I am definitely not countersteering. I was also one of the fastest through the corner.

Yes in Motorcross.

Countersteering is part of initiating the turn, just because you turn the wheel to face the direction of turn eventually, does NOT mean you didn't countersteer to begin with. It's physics, a motorcycle is an inverted pendulum, you can't not countersteer. You certainly do countersteer in motorcross.

A postage size stamp of a photo proof, I think it would be very difficult to actually photograph it at all to be honest.

Yes, physics is physics, and you certainly can countersteer on a dirt bike, but just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to or even should. In fact, it's probably a bad idea. Back to physics, most tracks will have ruts made in which you ride the bike into. It acts as a rail, and as long as you track through it, you'll be fine. If you attempted counter steering in these ruts, your front wheel would break out and you'd be on your face. I know this from personal experience, trying to get the bike to lean a little more.

I've raced dirt bikes for almost 13 years now, and have been trained in one of the best racing schools in the world. I've raced with pros and watched pros live. People that make millions off racing motocross, hare scrambles, enduro, and supercross don't do it, so there must be something there.

Once again, I'm not saying it's impossible to countersteer on a dirt bike. If you watch supermoto (mix of dirt and street), they do it there. However, you'll notice the tracks are made different and the turns they countersteer into typically aren't big berms. What I am saying is that in all-dirt, knobbie tire situations, countersteering isn't done.

That's all I have to say about that...

Originally Posted by JokiJo

I promised pictures!


The first pictures of the white bike are me, the red and yellow bikes are friends, and the last two are me . (last one is to make sure you only look at the pictures once xd)

Don't get any ideas about the guys on the red and yellow bikes, they've been riding bikes for many many more years then me and I consider them to be some of the best riders and guys I know, and I know alot of both! I'm probably making upwards of 30 feet distance and 8-12 feet air, hard to tell when you're up there. the other guys' jumps are respectable seen in person, besides, how well can you expect a 40 year old to jump?

Looking good! You'd be surprised about the 40 year olds. Ever seen Guy Cooper? I used to live down the street from him, and I've seen that dude do some wild and crazy stuff. Backflips, X-Games style kickers, and just generally going way too fast and too high.

I've got a cousin that used to race pro, and he's pushing 40. He used to take massive triples like they were nothing. He's now moved on to racing superbikes.

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

That's all I have to say about that...

Ok, as long as one of us believes basic physics can be defied I guess the scientific world will progress as normal.

I have to agree with orange. Counter steer with a washogle nobby you're gonna eat dirt.

steering on a dirtbike is all about leaning and placing your wait on the foot pegs. You stand up and throw your tire around to steer, I have a steering stabilizer on my bike and I don't move my handle bar much if at all.