Thread: New gun!

Originally Posted by Lynn

I have the XD-45 and that thing pounds nails all day long. Great weapon!!

Lynn

I have the XD 45 too, Came with a 13rd and a 10rd, belt holster, belt mag holder, speed mag loader, and the cleaning stuff...I also found some Win Ranger 230gr T-series Hollow Points...

That sounds just plain crazy to me...[/quote]


amen to that!

These are my 45's:

Colt 1991A1 sent to Wilson Combat for adjustable sights.

HK USP Expert

It depends on the state. Here, if someone enters your home uninvited (armed or unarmed), you can shoot them. Property is a little different, but not much. The way I see it, dead men tell no tales, and it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6

Castle law does not exist in every state and interpretations of it vary widely. The closest interpretation to what those folks across the pond think of us "crazy Americans" would have to be Texas. Here in Massachusetts I think you have to be bleeding out with the guy reloading to justify firing a shot....

Originally Posted by Sticky

No, that's a popular myth; in my state anyway. The general rule is: "To use deadly force you must be in imminent and unavoidable danger of death or grave bodily harm.". (e.g. if an unarmed drunk enters your house by mistake and you shoot him: you are going to jail.)



There is one glaring difference between defending yourself in your home and on the street.

• Outside your home you are required to retreat if you can do so without putting yourself, or other innocents, at greater risk.
• In your home, there is no requirement to attempt any retreat (Castle Law).

That sounds just plain crazy to me...

In Kentucky, we are not required to retreat. If you believe that you, or another person may be killed, suffer serious physical injury, or raped, you are justified in using deadly force.

If someone enters your home unlawfully, you do not even have to believe that they may cause you harm, you can legally shoot them.

If the intruder exits your home and is fleeing, KY laws says that you cannot shoot, even if they have stolen property.

If someone is attempting to jack your car on your property, you cannot legally shoot them. But, if you confront the criminal, and he becomes a threat to your life, you can use deadly force in that situation.

I'm just guessing that if you have the time to mentally review your state's particular justifiable homicide rules, and all of it's exceptions, application to the current situation, etc. before pulling the trigger, you aren't in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. Or at least you have the time to run instead.


Scott

Originally Posted by honedright

I'm just guessing that if you have the time to mentally review your state's particular justifiable homicide rules, and all of it's exceptions, application to the current situation, etc. before pulling the trigger, you aren't in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm.


Scott

Yeah I agree.

Originally Posted by honedright

I'm just guessing that if you have the time to mentally review your state's particular justifiable homicide rules, and all of it's exceptions, application to the current situation, etc. before pulling the trigger, you aren't in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. Or at least you have the time to run instead.


Scott

I strongly believe that people have a natural right to defend themselves. With that right comes the responsibility of being trained in the use of any weapon you choose to use for protection, unless it is an improvised weapon of last resort like a brick or fireplace poker. There is also the responsibility to know the rules and laws before finding one's self in a situation where they must defend themselves or others.

Each state in the United States has its own criminal code which generally outlines what is considered a lawful use of force. These laws vary from state to state. Some laws are more criminal friendly and some are not. Some laws are such that one must make an attempt to retreat before using deadly force. Other states do not have that requirement and one is protected if one is actively trying to defend themselves or others from being killed or gravely injured. So far there is no state that I am aware of that has taken away a person's natural right to defend themselves... yet.

On top of criminal law there is the whole area of civil litigation. You may be cleared by the criminal court where it is ruled that you used force in a lawful manner and then have the criminal or his/her estate sue you in civil court.

Not only must to be prepared to survive the physical fight, but the legal fight in the aftermath. This is accomplished with proper training and knowledge.

I'm in the same boat as Mike7120. Here in Ga you are not required to retreat, you can shoot at the doorway if you wanted. Last year a little way up the road from me a woman was shot when she answered her door. The BG shot 70 rounds of ammo into her and the living room. I think there were multiple assailants. Also in Ga we can carry on public transportation and in places where alcohol is served (like Red Lobster, Crapplebees, etc. Can't be a pub or a bar) They are trying to change the law here to make it even less restrictive as well. I can't wait!