Thread: How many people CCW here?

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Originally Posted by StephenPGrasso

Yeah, I love shooting the P7. I used to shoot it in IDPA but it would get a little too hot after extended firing. I honestly feel that the gun is very concealable. I carry it in a Matt DelFatti IWB holster while wearing shorts and a t-shirt.

After all these years, the P7 is still an awesome platform! I also found it very concealable in an OWB holster, especially compared to my full-size Glock. Just recently traded my two P7 PSPs, plus some cash, for a watch that I just couldn't resist, and I already miss them :-(, although in fact, I wasn't shooting or carrying them very much anymore...

I'm surprised you had the overheating problem with the M8 - thought that was an issue more with the PSP, and that they had improved the heatshield in front of the trigger guard for the M8?

I wouldn't characterize as a problem per se, it was more an annoyance. Now that I think about it it was only an issue during USPSA matches were the round count was 30+ a stage. IDPA has a lower round count and gun didn't heat up as much. Shooting the M8 version also put you a a bit of a disadvantage when everyone else in that class ( ESP) had 10 rounds. Most guys shot the M13.

1911 Government Model that I built some years ago. All day every day.

Originally Posted by HamburgO

After all these years, the P7 is still an awesome platform! I also found it very concealable in an OWB holster, especially compared to my full-size Glock. Just recently traded my two P7 PSPs, plus some cash, for a watch that I just couldn't resist, and I already miss them :-(, although in fact, I wasn't shooting or carrying them very much anymore...

I'm surprised you had the overheating problem with the M8 - thought that was an issue more with the PSP, and that they had improved the heatshield in front of the trigger guard for the M8?

out of all the ones I have my H&K are right up there in the top five pistols would not trade for a watch, and I'm someone who has over 70 watches, so I know what you mean when you said you saw one that you have to have. But the trigger and accuracy of the H&K are just too nice to be on the trade list, they're also getting rarer, and more expensive since they went out of production

Originally Posted by StephenPGrasso

I wouldn't characterize as a problem per se, it was more an annoyance. Now that I think about it it was only an issue during USPSA matches were the round count was 30+ a stage. IDPA has a lower round count and gun didn't heat up as much. Shooting the M8 version also put you a a bit of a disadvantage when everyone else in that class ( ESP) had 10 rounds. Most guys shot the M13.

Thanks! With the PSP, the heat was definitely a problem - three mags of rapid fire and your fingers better not touch anywhere beyond the trigger guard... training at the range, I would run two mags max through it, and then switch to another gun to let it cool down.

I liked the M8 better than the PSP, but the availability and price was already through the roof four yeas ago - today, I see them anywhere from 2500 - 4000! Never even seen the M13, and can only imagine the price that would command these days...

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

out of all the ones I have my H&K are right up there in the top five pistols would not trade for a watch, and I'm someone who has over 70 watches, so I know what you mean when you said you saw one that you have to have. But the trigger and accuracy of the H&K are just too nice to be on the trade list, they're also getting rarer, and more expensive since they went out of production

Believe me, I so get what you're saying! The P7 is a stellar piece, a perfect marriage of design and function - clearly "Made In Germany"! As is the watch I got ;-)

As a collector, you may know of the Sinn brand of watches. I had never heard of or seen them until two years ago, and it was love at first sight. Since then, I've been looking for a particular model, the EZM 1. It's a real classic of theirs, and not very easy to find these days. Through a fortunate coincidence, I recently became aware that an acquaintance (who owns about as many watches as you do!), had a 2000 3H EZM1. The same acquaintance had expressed some interest in my P7s - voila! - now he has those, and I have the EZM 1...

BTW, also looking for a Rolex Datejust, mid to late 60s, black dial and gold bezel, black leather strap - any leads?

Sinn makes a great watch! Back in the early 80's I had the chance to buy a collection of H&K's from a guy who was leaving the country. He had P7's in M8, M13, and M10. P9S in all variants including the target models and a HK4 kit. Like the young dope that I was, I passed on it.

I looked at the P7's when I was choosing my carry gun. The strange way you have to squeeze the grip just put me off.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

I looked at the P7's when I was choosing my carry gun. The strange way you have to squeeze the grip just put me off.

Yeah, that varies for people. Always worked well for me, and I sometimes tend to miss the grip safety on certain 1911s and the Springfield XD series... go figure!

That squeeze-cocker arguably makes the P7 one of the safest handguns ever made. I say arguably because a) according to a gunsmith I know, , the system can fail mechanically in rare cases, something about one of the springs or pins in the cocking assembly, and b) if your finger is holding back the trigger as you squeeze-cock, the weapon will discharge.

Back in the 80's, well-known gun trainer Massad Ayoob was enthusiastically recommending it for LE and civilian carry. A lot of "old-school" guys in the private security business carry it to this day - it used to be the de-facto standard for them because the accuracy, safety and concealability of the pistol could not be beat.

Damn, I'm starting to feel sorry that I traded mine in... :-(