Thread: How many people CCW here?

Paul,
It may have been a joke, but IT IS the attitude of Jerseyites. I am speaking from experience.

Originally Posted by EMC45

Paul,
It may have been a joke, but IT IS the attitude of Jerseyites. I am speaking from experience.

I can't speak on that and I count my blessings for it. I hear it's as bad as socal.

Originally Posted by EMC45

Spoken like a true "subject" of New Jersey.

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Originally Posted by Costabro

Not to be contentious, but if this is your viewpoint, then why are you on this thread? Your comment makes no logical sense and smacks of feminism.

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Originally Posted by joesixpack

Yeah, CCW permit holders are certainly not the people you need to be worried about. I'd like to see anyone demonstrate that CCW holders are more likely to use a gun than the general population. In spite of the dire warnings from the anti-rights movement, no statistical increase in violence has ever resulted from loosened permit laws.

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Originally Posted by HamburgO

I resemble that remark, and take it as a compliment!

Thanks for the good spirits, my comment was meant that way but I guess I insulted some folks.

Originally Posted by EMC45

It is the common theme and attitude of those in NJ. I lived there for 18 years. In North NJ no less. Screeching scaredy cat liberal nanny state do gooders. I have never seen a class/group of people so interested in another's business as I have in NJ. My Mother left and moved all the way to VA. She said the only people she had a problem with in her neighborhood were from NJ. Always in someone's business and trying to tell someone what to do. I am glad I left the state and will never return. If someone is "scared" because of law abiding gunowners then stay right where you are. Just don't whine when you get mugged, jumped, robbed...etc etc. fill in the blank. I wasn't born in the south, but got here as soon as I could.

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It is all good until you have to take your gun from its place on your hip, ankle,center console, and decide to kill or not. Be prepared for that day, and the day after. It is not fun.

Well, let me put it like this: I know my handle says I'm from DC, but the truth is I live and work right across the Potomac river in the beautiful gun friendly state of Virginia. It's no accident. If I can't carry, I don't go. I haven't seen Maryland in years.

Originally Posted by Mvcrash

It is all good until you have to take your gun from its place on your hip, ankle,center console, and decide to kill or not. Be prepared for that day, and the day after. It is not fun.

Amen brother!

I truly believe that people need to make their own decisions, but by way of mental preparation, I have strongly recommended "The Bulletproof Mind" tape lecture by Dave Grossmann and/or "Mind Set" by Gabe Suarez to every novice shooter I've trained over the past years. I also believe that combat simulations / force-on-force training are just as important for civilian firearm owners as for law enforcement and military. I try to do it for myself at least a few days each year. This type of training swiftly shows you what works and what doesn't work under pressure, and conditions you for the effects of adrenaline on your body and mind.

"It is all good until you have to take your gun from its place on your hip, ankle,center console, and decide to kill or not. Be prepared for that day, and the day after. It is not fun."


My intention is to protect my self and my family. Me presenting a firearm and using it is to stop an immediate threat. You use the word kill. I did not. That may be the overall outcome of the situation, but not neccesarily the hard and fast rule. And yes I am prepared for that day. I have been shooting for 30 years (yes even in NJ), been carrying a handgun for all of my adult life and have fired tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition in training for defense and overall recreation. I am also a dual service veteran (11 years total) and a large portion of my duties required me to carry a gun (be it a rifle or handgun). I did not push papers for my rich Uncle. I was very much in a combat role. I have fired so much ammo it has become instinctive on multiple levels. Be it revolver, semiauto etc. Or instinctive, lowlight, aimed fire etc. We also have Castle Doctrine in the great State of Georgia where as NJ does not. I mention that because if one were to defend himself in NJ he may face hard time. Rahway State Prison maybe? Here in Ga there are protective measures for those that defend themselves. There is not some type of retreat law, nor is there a "reasonable steps" law. It is stand your ground. You are protected, BY LAW, against any legal or civil ramifications. God bless the south!

We have a good castle law in MO. Not only does it provide good protection from criminal prosecution it also makes it very difficult if not impossible for the bad guys family to bring a civil suite against you.

Originally Posted by EMC45

"It is all good until you have to take your gun from its place on your hip, ankle,center console, and decide to kill or not. Be prepared for that day, and the day after. It is not fun."


My intention is to protect my self and my family. Me presenting a firearm and using it is to stop an immediate threat. You use the word kill. I did not. That may be the overall outcome of the situation, but not neccesarily the hard and fast rule. And yes I am prepared for that day. I have been shooting for 30 years (yes even in NJ), been carrying a handgun for all of my adult life and have fired tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition in training for defense and overall recreation. I am also a dual service veteran (11 years total) and a large portion of my duties required me to carry a gun (be it a rifle or handgun). I did not push papers for my rich Uncle. I was very much in a combat role. I have fired so much ammo it has become instinctive on multiple levels. Be it revolver, semiauto etc. Or instinctive, lowlight, aimed fire etc. We also have Castle Doctrine in the great State of Georgia where as NJ does not. I mention that because if one were to defend himself in NJ he may face hard time. Rahway State Prison maybe? Here in Ga there are protective measures for those that defend themselves. There is not some type of retreat law, nor is there a "reasonable steps" law. It is stand your ground. You are protected, BY LAW, against any legal or civil ramifications. God bless the south!

pa is the same way, But god bless the south is right, I may be a yank but my hearts in dixie

I have my permit. Issued in Utah when I lived there. Work doesn't allow me to carry on person or in my vehicle. Here in NC I was told they have open carry laws, but never looked into it as my permit is recognized here. I got the permit to be prepared in case something happened. I don't go looking for trouble. Being 6'8" I tend to be a little more intimidating than some. But, you never know when or where you will need a little backup and a knife won't cut it. If I am traveling and have my family with me, I definitely carry something. Don't want anything happening to my family.

People,
I started this as a fun way to talk about the right to carry. Not to disparage or give opinions about the act of defending oneself in a violent situation. Most if not all people that carry have already(or should) asked themselves this tough question of "would I be willing". If you answer no then all you have is a paperweight around your belt.
Please lets not get caught up in semantics.
Paul

1st rule of a gunfight? Bring a gun. 2nd is bring all your friends with guns!