Thread: One I'm working on, second attempt

Originally Posted by JDM61

I could ask the same question.........

So far all you do is make people doubt what they are doing, even though there is nothing wrong with what they are doing.
You have 355 posts while claiming to learn, but you don't want to learn. You just show off. Several of the things you posted so far are near copy pastes from other places.

Razors are not knives, and what is good for one is not the best for the other, yet you keep harping on steel trivia and names of smiths to argue that if it is good for knives, it is good for razors.
It's not. And if you would bother to get your hands dirty and learn to make razors, you would find this out for yourself.

Bruno tells the truth. Not all the masters who make knives can make a razor, not all. Sometimes, in the manufacture of razors, still have questions then later after manufacture.

Originally Posted by rolodave

Looks like a great shaving blade. Like the shoulderless flow.

What kind of scales will you use?

+1 on the shoulderless flow

This forum is what got me to making razors, as I had made a few knives in the garage & my mentality is that if you can do it...so can I. I started with stock removal and sent off my first dozen or so razors off to be heat treated. I got to thinking to myself, am I being honest about "I made it". I wasn't making it as there was a step, albeit a large one, that was out of my control. Only time a razor came back flawed was if I ground it too thin & ended up with a potato chip razor. I picked up a forge and started out with knife blades, sold enough to pay for the forge. Started working on hamons with knives & razors...now I see why Charlie has a cup of RSO's at his shop when I was there at a hammer-in.

Now that I am where I am, comfortable moving steel around on the anvil, grinding, heat treating, grinding more & finishing. Before I didn't appreciate near as much the guys who make functional works of art. Key word is functional, I've had quite a few very good looking custom razors in my hands including my own...but if they don't hone up properly, strop right, feel right shaving, hold up to a shave...you have a RSO.

What's my point? Knives are like mowing the lawn, most anyone can mow the lawn. Make a razor and you will really get the guys attention here on SRP in the forge section & they will jump over one another to help you. Don't tell me how to make a razor, show me how you made your razor. Be honest with yourself, is it a good razor? Where can it be improved? Send it out to be tried out by a shaving/making veteran...there is always room for improvement. Most of all, just make one & quit talking about it.

Honestly, I'm not sure in even going to finish this one out. I think the spine is wrong. Who said earlier on the thread about the hollow grind being taken too high? I have no desire to compete something that isn't going to be right anyway.

I don't have a whole cup of rso's, but maybe I should start.....I think I'm up to four that have been scrapped for one reason or another. Now knives.....Yeah, I make throwing knives. No, they don't start out like that, but they end up like that sometimes. Heck, the other day I made a throwing railroad iron piece. Thank goodness I don't have drywall up in my shop........I swear I'm not a violent person, just anal about quality.

Originally Posted by shooter74743

Don't tell me how to make a razor, show me how you made your razor.

The truth of the pudding is in eating it, not in talking about how good it could be.
You are 100% correct.

Originally Posted by medicevans

just anal about quality.

Don't let that stop you from finishing things. You'll keep improving as long as you shoot for 'better' instead of 'perfect'.
I don't have that many RSOs because most things can be salvaged by removing more metal.
A lot can be learned by figuring out what went wrong and then fixing it. If nothing else, it will motivate you not to make the same mistake again.

It's a start my friend & I commend you for posting your works. Go ahead and finish it out as the entire process is a learning curve all the way to the shave. That piece of steel still has more to be learned from. This is what has been mentioned above, no matter what you "know & can recite", it's the application to the steel that matters. Razors are tough to make, period. Look at all the knife makers, then look at the number of quality razor makers. Sure makes you appreciate a quality razor!

Originally Posted by shooter74743

It's a start my friend & I commend you for posting your works. Go ahead and finish it out as the entire process is a learning curve all the way to the shave. That piece of steel still has more to be learned from. This is what has been mentioned above, no matter what you "know & can recite", it's the application to the steel that matters. Razors are tough to make, period. Look at all the knife makers, then look at the number of quality razor makers. Sure makes you appreciate a quality razor!

I'm not even close to making my own blades, a lot more needs to come together in my mind and life for that to happen. For now I'm very happy making and learning restoration and customs. It's been fulfilling.
This what you said is so true for all aspects, for every project I think. Especially such complicated ones such as SR creation.. the more I read these posts, the more respect I'm gaining for the artists/manufacturers of old and new.
Someday, I'll be there I hope. Building blocks of info and know how, jumping in and following through. Good stuff.
Thanks for the thought provocative input!