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    Quote Originally Posted by FUD
    Statistics show that you're 84% wrong .
    OK...So show me the statistics!!!

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    100% of the pair of ya is blowin' smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT
    It may be true but you didn't have to come out and say it like that But the speeding statistic is especially true. They say that speed is a factor for every accident involving one or more moving vehicles. The only accidents where speed is not a factor are where you open the door and dent/scratch the other guy's door.
    I see where you're coming from but you're also I think being a bit creative and deliberately obtuse (which hey, I'm prone to do at times as well) in order to make a point.

    It's *unsafe* speeds (going 90 in a 30, driving too fast on ice covered roads, at night, during driving rain, etc ) instead of slowing down to a *safe* speed that is the "factor" in those accidents and that's the point they're trying to make. Yeah, if you just say "speed" you can follow your chain of logic but c'mon, you know as well as I do that the guy driving 120 mph down the road is statistically a hell of a lot more likely to cause an accident than the guy travelling 30 mph and it's the first guy they are talking about not the second.

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    Here is a quote for you that deals with Statistics,

    Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    - Autobiography of Mark Twain



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    Now now gentlemen. Let's not get bogged down with statistics. Instead, let's get back to grass roots with a good old fashioned mathematical proof

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfoster
    It's *unsafe* speeds (going 90 in a 30, driving too fast on ice covered roads, at night, during driving rain, etc ) instead of slowing down to a *safe* speed that is the "factor" in those accidents and that's the point they're trying to make. Yeah, if you just say "speed" you can follow your chain of logic but c'mon, you know as well as I do that the guy driving 120 mph down the road is statistically a hell of a lot more likely to cause an accident than the guy travelling 30 mph and it's the first guy they are talking about not the second.

    -- Gary F.
    I can agree with you up to a point. However they create unnecesserily low speed limits just to collect money from drivers who drive at otherwise safe speeds. Cars have shorter stopping distances, better handling and better wet traction than ever but the speed limits keep going down instead of going up to account for the technological improvements. The reason they do it is to score political points, generate more tax revenue and make the insurance industry more money.
    By the way your final example doesn't apply everywhere. If the speed limit is 100, then the guy going 120 is a heck of a lot LESS likely to cause an accident than the guy going 30 in a 100 zone, just begging to get rear-ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxIk
    Now now gentlemen. Let's not get bogged down with statistics. Instead, let's get back to grass roots with a good old fashioned mathematical proof
    Stupid zero.

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    I rate that right there where I read awhile back that ice cream causes cancer.
    Although Howard Hughes would probably disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye
    . . . where I read awhile back that ice cream causes cancer.

    There's a lot of things in modern processed foods that are very bad carcinogens. Ignoring all that though it is a simple truth that sugar FEEDS cancer. Thus all the sweeteners used in ice cream are bad bad bad for cancer patients/survivors. One girl I know had a brain tumor that exploded in growth shortly after her diet went from mostly fresh fruits and veggies to a high intake of breakfast cerials and candies.

    Many of the chemicals used in processing of dairy products (ice cream included) are cancerous in high enough amounts. The trouble is, many of these same carcinogens are also used in the processing of many other prepared or pre-packed foods. So even if you only eat one icecream a week, how much other crud are you shoveling in on the side? .

    Sugars and refined flowers feed the cancer, substitute sweeteners cause the cancers, etc. etc. etc.

    Personally I'll take a few strawberries, a banana, some ice, juice from half a squeezed lemon, and some honey and blend myself a smoothie that tastes better than most ice creams any day. Statistically speaking, I'm ok with that

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    I used to raise goats and chickens and I made my own ice cream from my own dairy goats. Flavored it with black walnuts harvested from my walnut trees or berries or fruit from our little miniature orchard. Eggs from my own chickens served to thicken it, etc.

    THAT is some good ice cream

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