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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilis View Post
    Really? I haven't tried it yet on good finishers, but I guess I have to. If both of you agree on that, it's definitely worth a shot.
    If you look at it logically the Nagura steps are a progression so they are obviously coarser than the base stone . Just don't crush the stone with your diamond plate. Less is more here too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onimaru55 View Post
    I would argue diamond plate slurry from a super fine finisher is much finer than any nagura.
    What kind of diamond plate would i need for slurry making ?
    Excuse my ignorance ...
    I have a Shoboudani Mizu Asagi L5+ . If thats of importance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    What kind of diamond plate would i need for slurry making ?
    Excuse my ignorance ...
    I have a Shoboudani Mizu Asagi L5+ . If thats of importance.
    I use an Atoma 1200 but a well worn DMT 325 will do the job. If you have an equally fine Tomo then it's all good but Botan to Koma is coarser than your Asagi, hence the progression.
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    If the 1200 came in a finger sized version i'd buy some.
    Although i suppose youd be making a slurry and lapping at the same time with the big one .
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    Quote Originally Posted by onimaru55 View Post
    I would argue diamond plate slurry from a super fine finisher is much finer than any nagura.
    Maybe I'm confusing nagura and tomonagura here, wouldn't tomonagura slurry be finer than diamond raised slurry? At least Maksim and the Japanese metal masters he spoke to don't use diamonds: Diamond Plates VS Naguras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurens View Post
    Maybe I'm confusing nagura and tomonagura here, wouldn't tomonagura slurry be finer than diamond raised slurry? At least Maksim and the Japanese metal masters he spoke to don't use diamonds: Diamond Plates VS Naguras.
    Very Intereseting

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    It's a YMMV thing. Some love diamond plates, others hate them.
    For Jnat experts, Maksim doesn't like them, but Alex is using only diamond plates in his videos. Still, I don't think one of them is right and the other wrong. Listen to their advices, and then, choose for yourself after you tried them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    Although i suppose youd be making a slurry and lapping at the same time with the big one .

    I am pretty sure I have heard that at some point in time.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurens View Post
    Maybe I'm confusing nagura and tomonagura here, wouldn't tomonagura slurry be finer than diamond raised slurry? At least Maksim and the Japanese metal masters he spoke to don't use diamonds: Diamond Plates VS Naguras.
    Post #33. "If you have an equally fine Tomo then it's all good but Botan to Koma is coarser than your Asagi, hence the progression."

    Personally I feel I get 100% out of my finishers whether I use tomo nagura or diamond plate but I get 101% when I finish with 4 or 5 light strokes on my finisher when it is dry. I never shave off a tomo slurry. I always go to water then dry so for me what happens at any slurry stage is not the end game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onimaru55 View Post
    but I get 101% when I finish with 4 or 5 light strokes on my finisher when it is dry. I always go to water then dry so for me what happens at any slurry stage is not the end game.

    Hmmmmmm I think I resemble that remark also,,, Exact same here, let the J-nat slurry go to dry after it is completely worked and broken down, then finish the edge with some super light x strokes ..

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