Thread: Vermio; The Black, Greek hone

Some findings I have from my stone, that are to difficult for me to get with my phone's camera.

The stone is still "as-is" from delivery.

I have used it on 3-4 razors with successful results so far. It seems to leave a fairly comfortable edge.

The slurry stone catches while trying to build a slurry. This seems to coincide with scratching developing on the hone.

Seems to me there are 2 possibilities, a rough surface on either the slurry stone or the stone itself. I figure I will lap this stone & slurry stone with fine grit paper (1000-1500) then try burnishing with a man-made stone. Figure I will try with the Naniwa SS 12k and see what happens

Is your slurry stone in good condition, flat on all sizes? Still, it doesn't matter, that's something that happens on all hard stones.
And, as with all hard stones, I'm rounding an edge of the larger sides, and use that round part to rub the stone with. No corners, no scratches.

Originally Posted by dinnermint

Some findings I have from my stone, that are to difficult for me to get with my phone's camera.

The stone is still "as-is" from delivery.

I have used it on 3-4 razors with successful results so far. It seems to leave a fairly comfortable edge.

The slurry stone catches while trying to build a slurry. This seems to coincide with scratching developing on the hone.

Seems to me there are 2 possibilities, a rough surface on either the slurry stone or the stone itself. I figure I will lap this stone & slurry stone with fine grit paper (1000-1500) then try burnishing with a man-made stone. Figure I will try with the Naniwa SS 12k and see what happens

Yes. Do as Vasilis says, this works perfectly. You will still be able to scratch the stone if you use too much pressure though, or if you accidentally lift one side of the rubbing stone a bit - limit your down pressure on the stone and be sure to keep the stones in good contact with each other.

The stone is in good condition, I'll have to double check, but I do believe it has rounded edges. Although they could be chamfered. The slurry stone does seem to be lapped on the three narrow sides with a higher grit though. Not the larger sides of the rectangle. I hope that is clear, I can add photos later tonight.

It also seemed to be pretty independent of pressure. Maybe even worse with less pressure.

You aren't following instructions. I'm guessing you misunderstand. You need to round one flat side of the rubbing stone to modify it into a large radius - something like the radius of your thumb pad or the curve on the outside of a 5-gallon pail. Alternatively you can also try to round a corner into something more like a 1/4" or 1/2" radius. You need to reduce the surface area in contact with the stone.

Edit: you want something like this, I prefer to round one side and leave the other flat:



It can be important to use the sides of the stone that are the natural "top" and "bottom" if you want best results - the abrasive particles often won't come loose the same way with some stones if the stone is rubbed in a different orientation (on a different face than top or bottom).

Sorry, misinterpreted the edge as a corner of the stone not as rounding the entire narrow side into a round. Thank you for the clarification.

The corner will work too, but you'll still need to round out into a larger radius. You want to decrease the surface area but it can't be too small or it will easily scratch too. It's a bit of a "just right" situation.

Hmmm, I'll upload some pictures and steal some knowledge from you guys

Just want to share my opinion on Vermio.

I try to finish one straight on Vermio with WD40 and I find that I like more finished on plain water. Now have to try finish on glycerine.
On WD40 was littlebit on harsh side.

I realy like this stone. And its definitely keeper.

Last night I finished one razor "FANGER 500" on Vermio with glycerine and shave after that was absolutely fantastic.
I was trilled.... I'm still trilled and excited that I have one piece of this amazing stone.