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02-09-2017, 12:16 AM #1
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Thanked: 13249"Everything that you read on the internet is neither true nor accurate"
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02-09-2017, 12:40 AM #2
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Thanked: 35Found the same info on this site:
ShaptonŽ, Hardbond, Grit 16.000
Either the info is correct or this site has copied the information from the dictum site. Something is definitely weird as the 16k is considerably cheaper than the 10k on the dictum site.Last edited by SharpMan; 02-09-2017 at 12:42 AM.
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02-09-2017, 12:58 AM #3
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Thanked: 3795Well, a lot of other places sell the 10k for less than the 16k.
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02-09-2017, 01:17 AM #4
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Thanked: 481Instead of reading junk from 3rd party sites you could always go straight to the source...
Shapton-engineered abrasives are available in extremely uniform particle matrices. A .92 micron (#16000) Shapton abrasive has a uniformity of +/- .01 microns. This level of uniformity does not occur in nature and is unmatched by competing products...
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02-09-2017, 02:06 AM #5
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02-09-2017, 03:01 AM #6
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Thanked: 3795I doubt that Dictum knows more about the Shapton abrasives than Shapton does.
From Shapton...
Shapton-engineered abrasives are available in extremely uniform particle matrices. A .92 micron (#16000) Shapton abrasive has a uniformity of +/- .01 microns. This level of uniformity does not occur in nature and is unmatched by competing products. Shapton's 29.4 micron (#500) is used to quickly form geometry. The .49 micron (#30,000), on the other hand, is used to polish surfaces into a resilient, high mirror finish. Shapton's precise uniformity ensures the consistency of these scratch patterns. Natural stones and competing man-made stones do not exhibit this level of uniformity.
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02-09-2017, 04:14 AM #7
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Thanked: 3228That is a German site so could there be a translation miscue from German to English in what they are trying to say?
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02-09-2017, 04:28 AM #8
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Thanked: 351That sentence is NOT saying that the 16K Shapton Glass hone is made from *mixed* grits (Baltic Hand Tools site). It is a typical computer translation (google style translation) of one language to another where grammar rules are different. As I don't speak the original language, I can't say for sure exactly what they are talking about, but I did live in Europe for 13 years and I know that German grammar puts words in a different order than English.
It looks like they are trying to make some point about progression from low grit to high grit, but I'm not quite sure what they are talking about.
Rest assured, Shapton uses a carefully graded grit in each hone... though I do recall reading that they have some glass hones made specifically for tougher steels, or perhaps it was for carbon steel tools?!?!? It would still be single grit, just a different material for the grit and perhaps a different binder.
From that Baltic Hand Tools site we have:
In blade sharpening tests there was nonoticeable difference in sharpness betweena jump 2000 to 16.000 (mixed grit) anda standard sharpening procedure.
Anyone who has suffered through "Chinglish" manuals knows what I mean when I say "computer translation", which ranks right up there with "spell checking". You may have spelled the word "two" correctly, but when you meant "too", spell checking doesn't really help much.
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02-09-2017, 04:15 AM #9