Thread: Fake hones, how common are they?

Well rodb a lot can be done in photoshop with average skills, or google guides.

Paper would work if printet on a laserjet, but everybody got them nowadays.

Saw marks, can't be duplicated.

When a hone is lapped on the sides, so the sawmarks are gone I wouldn't buy it.

That said a friend of my lapped the sawmarks of, because he simply didn't know better. But in that case, i would try the hone first. [emoji4]


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The worst thing I see is that so many "Want to Believe"

They want to believe that it is a real Escher / Nakayama
They want to believe the stupid numbers that people attribute to Natural hones like the Welsh Slates and ILR's
They want to believe that there are new wonder hones out there that have never been discovered before and now have really cool sounding names. Some go so far as to take old hone names and market off that

When people want to believe,,,, they are ripe for the picking

Things have changed drastically since 2010 in the Wetshaving world, this little corner of that world has stayed pretty safe still because so many actual experts, are not afraid to call BS when they see it.. That isn't always appreciated, but if you don't like the truth don't ask for it


Done Venting

But Glen, what about the fabulous cryptonite super hones? That sure is the one hone to rule them all??? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Originally Posted by doorsch

If you mean "clearly full sized" Eschers do you mean ones with a label ?

Yeahh, not using the preferred nomenclature but that's what i meant.

As for the images of the hone, here they are...


Regarding "wanting it to be true" I guess that's up to each person. It looked good in the images available to me, certainly wasn't any 'too good to be true' deal, so I figured I was safe with the buy.
You can't see it in the pictures but the stone was held down with a piece of 3M tape, and the nicks in the bottom of the stone do not match the stone fragments left behind in the box from the original stone being removed.
I do believe that the box and label might be authentic, but the stone itself is rubbish... which is all I really care about tbh.

Well the box is just like mine. Including the label. And the hone looks the same to. But could be anything. Properly just a random slate cut in size...


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Originally Posted by Kristian

Well the box is just like mine. Including the label. And the hone looks the same to. But could be anything. Properly just a random slate cut in size...


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I agree, I think it's just a piece of slate. it's very similar to whatever slate they're backing coticules with these days. it very much looks real from almost any angle in a picture unless you have it in your hand... then it's pretty clear. no saw marks either

Here's mine. I repaired the box, as you can see by the looks of the tree. [emoji6]


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Originally Posted by Kristian

and compare them to my own bones which I know to be real eschers. [emoji1]

Your bones are made of eschers!! and they have saw marks on them!!!?

Something tells me that this discussion about hones and bones is going to end with (autocorrect from) phones.

I haven't seen a fake escher, but I'm sure there are some out there. When a stone is used but the label is new and bright with no mark at all, watch out.

If you want to see fakes, though, just google "maruka".

So far, some of the maruka stamps are at least being used on good stones, but not all of them! Not by a mile! Still seems to double the price of barber sized stuff in japan, but not like it would if they were genuine stamps.

(I think there are so many fake maruka and other stamps being used now that they're going to run out of stones, and we're going to start seeing them on coticules, arkansas and escher stones).

Hi Butzy;
If you are willing to come by my place of work at lunch time I can give you a quick and dirty 1 hr session on honing. We have a nice training room, I’ve done this before for SRP members. It will at least give you enough hopefully help out and answer some questions.

Bring a hollow ground razor you want honed proper, not a big fat wedge please. I hone really fast so you will not be able to learn much from watching me. You should first to learn to use a Norton 4/8. You will see a Chosera 1K edge at 100X magnification and a 4K and 8K Norton edge. I think I have an extra Y/G thuri and rubber you can borrow if you want.. send me a PM.
MIke