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    It must be a case by case quality control issue. My Col. Ichabod Conk Best Quality (rebranded Dovo) had no grind issues at all and shaved fantastically off the first hone. It still had the factory bevel when I got it and it honed right up to truly shave ready without any issues.

    Of course it was bought in the factory store in Solingen so maybe they put.their best foot forward there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulFLUS View Post
    It must be a case by case quality control issue. My Col. Ichabod Conk Best Quality (rebranded Dovo) had no grind issues at all and shaved fantastically off the first hone. It still had the factory bevel when I got it and it honed right up to truly shave ready without any issues.

    Of course it was bought in the factory store in Solingen so maybe they put.their best foot forward there.
    I have the same one as well still. The first razor I purchased new when I started so over 20 years ago now.
    It honed super easy without any issues in geometry and remains a very good razor.
    The steel is not really hard but it still holds an edge as well as any vintage razor.
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    Talking about cruddy stainless and going off-topic to Dovo, a question comes to mind.

    Known fact that Dovo made razors for Hess Hair Milk.

    Why is it that a Hess 44 is widely regarded as one of the first and best of Inox razors.

    Dovo made some almost identical ones. Hard to see. I guess back in the day, deals were deals. Seems Hess specified and knew their stuff. Lots of razors come to mind
    All Hess razors made in Germany by Dovo seem to be great.
    44's are the longest lasting edges, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    Talking about cruddy stainless and going off-topic to Dovo, a question comes to mind.

    Known fact that Dovo made razors for Hess Hair Milk.

    Why is it that a Hess 44 is widely regarded as one of the first and best of Inox razors.

    Dovo made some almost identical ones. Hard to see. I guess back in the day, deals were deals. Seems Hess specified and knew their stuff. Lots of razors come to mind
    All Hess razors made in Germany by Dovo seem to be great.
    44's are the longest lasting edges, IMO.
    I guess the answer is straightforward: Hess cares about it brand and thus has higher bars for the product with its label on; Dovo takes short term profit over its brand and thus sells whatever left the pipeline with little maybe even no QA at all.
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    If u seen how they produce a factory edge at Dovo, you'd understand why they come with frowns most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    If u seen how they produce a factory edge at Dovo, you'd understand why they come with frowns most of the time.
    Oh dear, I did saw that video on this forum and that's exactly why I decided to keep away from Dovo. I wish I saw it earlier, then I would have probably gone for Boker and saved tones of troubles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    Talking about cruddy stainless and going off-topic to Dovo, a question comes to mind.

    Known fact that Dovo made razors for Hess Hair Milk.

    Why is it that a Hess 44 is widely regarded as one of the first and best of Inox razors.

    Dovo made some almost identical ones. Hard to see. I guess back in the day, deals were deals. Seems Hess specified and knew their stuff. Lots of razors come to mind
    All Hess razors made in Germany by Dovo seem to be great.
    44's are the longest lasting edges, IMO.
    Vintage Kenmore and Craftsman products come to mind. Sears & Roebuck must have had a lot of pull because the products sold under those names were better than the original maker's name brand products. That was true until relatively recently. Then they began to suck.
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    I'm not really sure how old that Col. Conk of mine is. It was brand new (NOS really i guess) when I got it as a gift from my family doctor. He bought it while on vacation in Germany and never used it. It had been years and years, I just don't know how many. My guess is at least 10 and maybe 20.
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    If that razor has an HRC of approx 70 ( which is highly doubtful) then it will most certainly be brittle and very prone to microchips.
    There is a reason that most razors are in the HRC range of 58-60. That range produces stable edges on the steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randydance062449 View Post
    If that razor has an HRC of approx 70 ( which is highly doubtful) then it will most certainly be brittle and very prone to microchips.
    There is a reason that most razors are in the HRC range of 58-60. That range produces stable edges on the steel.

    Just my 2¢

    Gotta agree with my friend Randy

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