The Aoto Thread

[hi_bud_gl]

I have tried. It leaves a lot of small chips in the edge.

Sorry it shouldn't be . At least on my stone it doesn't leave any chips it does act 2-4 k level.
Do you think something wrong with you honing? i don't mean offend you.
i bought mine from somewhere else and doesn't have what you guys saying. Someone post the place from where we can by and i bought mine for 13 .00 it is great stone for that price and what it can do?
i have posted pic early

[sparq]

I wish you better luck with your stones. Mine seems to be a very low grade. It wears out unevenly, there are many pits in the surface left after honing, there are cracks and cavities in its body. I will post some more pictures later.

[kevint]

Let's take a quick trip to So's site: Kouzaki, Inokura, Miyagawa, Hakka. And I think also Tanba.

Quite a bit more than those currently under discussion as these are the good ones.

It seems unreasonable to me to expect to get a 150-200usd middle stone for 12-60usd.

I do not consider it a worst case scenario; it is only fair that lower price =lower quality.

[adrspach]

Sorry it shouldn't be . At least on my stone it doesn't leave any chips it does act 2-4 k level.
Do you think something wrong with you honing? i don't mean offend you.
i bought mine from somewhere else and doesn't have what you guys saying. Someone post the place from where we can by and i bought mine for 13 .00 it is great stone for that price and what it can do?
i have posted pic early

I have seen recently Sparq and his honing and with my limited experience I did not see anything wrong with it and he brought razor to a good standard edge comparing with pro honemeisters including one which I had from yourself.
To all those either pros or amateurs like me who directly or indirectly honed one of razors I have shaved with you all have done a good job.

[sparq]

To Adrspach: Thank you, I am blushing now.

To Sham: It is good that you have a good performing aoto that we can use as a reference frame. If quality of aotos on the market varies from good users to total failures, you could help us with knowing what to look for. Does your aoto contain any rust-like inclusions or cracks?

To Kevint: Hold your horses sir. I do not think I expressed any discomfort about a mismatch between my expectations and reality. It was a gamble on my side, and I am just telling you what my stone is like.

[hi_bud_gl]

it doesn't have rust-like inclusions or cracks? This is why i am confused. there is another stone which i bough in same deal does have rust -like inclusions etc and that is a bad one. if you check early posts please do check i have put 2 pictures let us know which one you have.
You know the deal is i did advice people to buy it second stone not first one. you will see.
i am hoping i didn't guide them to wrong direction?

[kevint]

To Adrspach: Thank you, I am blushing now.

To Sham: It is good that you have a good performing aoto that we can use as a reference frame. If quality of aotos on the market varies from good users to total failures, you could help us with knowing what to look for. Does your aoto contain any rust-like inclusions or cracks?

To Kevint: Hold your horses sir. I do not think I expressed any discomfort about a mismatch between my expectations and reality. It was a gamble on my side, and I am just telling you what my stone is like.

Horses held Sparq. Why take it so personally I had in my mind what Holli and Pyment had said.

One old method of dealing with such things is to carve them out, and with aoto you can use whichever side is of best condition. good luck.

[Pyment]

Let's take a quick trip to So's site: Kouzaki, Inokura, Miyagawa, Hakka. And I think also Tanba.

Quite a bit more than those currently under discussion as these are the good ones.

It seems unreasonable to me to expect to get a 150-200usd middle stone for 12-60usd.

I do not consider it a worst case scenario; it is only fair that lower price =lower quality.

Actually, it would be more cost effective to us to buy an Iyo whetstone which is in the 1000-3000 range. I think these are being mined again.

[sparq]

I am cool, Kevin.

All sides look equally bad but I think I will cut it in half to see if I can find a better material there. If not, I will send it to Sham for his evaluation.

[hardheart]

it doesn't have rust-like inclusions or cracks? This is why i am confused. there is another stone which i bough in same deal does have rust -like inclusions etc and that is a bad one. if you check early posts please do check i have put 2 pictures let us know which one you have.
You know the deal is i did advice people to buy it second stone not first one. you will see.
i am hoping i didn't guide them to wrong direction?

The stone is blue, but it has rust brown spots. It's not an amakusa, its an aoto, just an aoto with rusty looking areas.

Actually, it would be more cost effective to us to buy an Iyo whetstone which is in the 1000-3000 range. I think these are being mined again.

I haven't seen them graded to 3K, is there a specific color of layer recommended? The ones I've seen are estimated to 500-1500 JIS.