Thread: Dedicated Bevel Setting ....

Originally Posted by Stromeng

Can you please elaborate? If you are alluding to the idea that the GS 1k does not set bevels fast, I disagree, and if you are alluding to the idea that the GS 1k should be used only within the so-called "Shapton" system, I also disagree. So could you please clarify...

I am alluding to neither, I am saying exactly that, don't mis-understand the purpose of the thread though, like many already have... We are talking about a dedicated bevel setting stone... Not the many "can do" stones that are out there, every stone mentioned is a good solid bevel setter for most every person out there...in fact most people don't actually even need a dedicated bevel stone...

Also please re-read what I said about the Shapton, Fast and Smooth as compared to the Norton 1k that makes it a pretty darn good stone

Originally Posted by gssixgun

One thing you are going to have to learn with razors is Sharpness is only half the battle, with Razors you are going to drag that sharp blade across your face so Smoothness becomes quite important... Now with a ton of practice the two will come together for you...
There have been many Knife and Tool guys with the same attitude that you have right now, many become quite good at straight razor honing,,, many don't get it...

Umm, a question.

What happens if I already happen to know what 'sharp and smooth' actually is?


Just curious.


(I don't know where you got the idea that I don't know what sharp actually is, but I'm always willing to learn, if there is indeed something to learn. At the moment, I'm confident that getting the razor sharp enough is not going to be a problem at all. It's all the other details that worry me...)


Stu.

Originally Posted by Schtoo

Umm, a question.

What happens if I already happen to know what 'sharp and smooth' actually is?

Stu.

Proceed directly to shave test to see if "knowing" matches "doing"

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Proceed directly to shave test to see if "knowing" matches "doing"

Ok, now what?


(Yeah, I got bored last night. Chisels are too narrow and tend to dig in.)


Stu.

Originally Posted by Schtoo

Ok, now what?


(Yeah, I got bored last night. Chisels are too narrow and tend to dig in.)


Stu.

Oh yeah , Forgot to say it's best to use a razor

Only had a plane blade available. Gotta make do with what I got for the time being...


Was pleasantly surprised actually. Very smooth, no nicks. Looking forward to an proper instrument.

Stu.

I know this is off topic but I really have to comment on the "knife" guy sharpening a razor. I have been sharpening knives for about 40 years, by hand, no jigs what so ever. I can feel the bevel as it is being made and as it is being polished. I have met some very talented knife guys and these top tier gents also relate to me that they use no jigs or crutches. Actually a razor has a built in "crutch" called the spine. I have a journeyman's card as finish carpenter, welder, and elevator mechanic. I had no trouble with the actual honing of a razor once I found out what rocks to use. I may be off base here but one very important attribute for being a master at honing, as a lot of the guys that have posted here are, is to have hands that have very good touch, feel and muscle control. Any individual that can take two pieces of wood or metal and mate them end to end with no light showing between the crack can, I assure you, sharpen a razor within a very short time.

Just an observation,
Richard

Originally Posted by Schtoo

Only had a plane blade available. Gotta make do with what I got for the time being...


Was pleasantly surprised actually. Very smooth, no nicks. Looking forward to an proper instrument.

Stu.

Good start Now, the next challenge is do the same with some Sheffield wedges & some extra Hollow Solingens. Get the 2 extremes wired & you'll have most bases covered

Great thread! I only own a vintage coticule and have been having trouble setting a bevel on a coupple sheffield wedges. I have been thinking about getting a "dedicated bevel setter", and this thread has helped me narrow down the field to two candidates. Thanks fellas for letting us know what your personal choices are and why, it is a big help for someone like me.

Regards
Louis.

Schtoo, don't misunderstand us. We don't say that you can't sharpen things, nor you don't know about sharp and smooth, we are saying that razors are a very different animal. I am pretty sure that you will get the hang of it much faster than the majority of new guys. We are saying that a lot of knife nuts and others came here, who already shaved with their pocket knives a lot of times, just for kicks, or to prove how good they can sharpen. And there were a lot of them who had a hard time learning to hone a razor, so if you can sharpen anything doesn't mean you can hone a razor too. That said, it can happen that you will sharpen an old sheffield warped smiling wedge the first time with HHT5 and perfect no irritation BBS shave, but it is very unlikely You will see what we were talking about if you get a less than perfectly straight razor, with more than minor rework needs.