Thread: peoples hone of indeterminate grit(phig) I don't like this name.

The stone should be called guanxi(jiangxi?) polishing hone or something else
that makes real sense. The thing about natural stones is that their
grit is not known beforehand. We don't call a nakayama, a stone of
inderminate grit eventough we don't know their real grit.

People's hone is a cool name, but China is a very big country and we
know from which city(province?) this stones comes from. It is from
Guangxi, so this should be mentioned in the name.It would be interesting
the learn the name of the mine.

Since we don't know what depth these stones are mined from and there isn't
any information about stratas from the guanxi, we can't unfortunately give
it the a proper name, but reading the many messages on these stones, I
noticed it performs between 8k and 15k most of the times. So this is a
(pre)polishing stone.

Guanxi polishing stone is a better name IMHO. If anybody got a better name,
please post one.

Sharpman

I totally agree with you!
I have always referred to that stone as a Guangxi natural hone.
C12K is a less than accurate description for a natural stone, and PHIG does, IMO, sound a bit derogatory.

Oh, boy. Here we go. PHIG is kind enough, I think, a better name than CSLR = Commie Slave Labor Rock. I'm such a hypocrite, I use it anyway. Got rid of my FED camera though.

Glenn -- I did it. Got into another C12k thread. Couldn't help myself.

I don't care what they're called; c12k, phig, guanxi hone, cslr, c-nat, etc... they work. The one I have, out of the three I have bought,IMO finishes among the very best stones out there.

PHIG was supposed to be a joke. Some insisted that it should not be called a C12k (which was based on it being advertised as a 12k hone), and stated that it is not a 12k hone. So that lead some to ask why it's not a 12k stone, and the reason is that it is a natural stone, and natural stones cannot have fixed grit ratings. So, based on all that, I started calling it the Peoples' Hone of Indeterminate Grit, and somehow that stuck.

I'm sure no one will care what you call it, just so long as we know what hone you are referring to.

i agree that the name is... bad. I order them directly from China, and I have cooperated with a few companies until now. They all call it "the grey slate stone". And most of them say that they are near 10k, although I find most of them finer. The name I'm using is C12k. Peoples hone of indeterminate grit? Find me a natural hone with determined grit. "People"? What else? With the word "hone" I agree though. It shares many similarities with this category. We can use the word phig for all the natural hones. Only the ones that have been tested by someone though. You can't say I went on a mountain and I think I've found a phig. Not until you test it of find someone who has. If you're certain it's a hone you can say it's hig.

Originally Posted by Theseus

I don't care what they're called; c12k, phig, guanxi hone, cslr, c-nat, etc... they work. The one I have, out of the three I have bought,IMO finishes among the very best stones out there.

Now, I've got to buy one; on the list for next month.

I thought they came from phig trees

Originally Posted by Vasilis

i agree that the name is... bad. I order them directly from China, and I have cooperated with a few companies until now. They all call it "the grey slate stone". And most of them say that they are near 10k, although I find most of them finer. The name I'm using is C12k. Peoples hone of indeterminate grit? Find me a natural hone with determined grit. "People"? What else? With the word "hone" I agree though. It shares many similarities with this category. We can use the word phig for all the natural hones. Only the ones that have been tested by someone though. You can't say I went on a mountain and I think I've found a phig. Not until you test it of find someone who has. If you're certain it's a hone you can say it's hig.

"People" is a reference to PRC (People's Republic of China) the official name for China. The "name" was made in jest and shouldn't be read as anything else

Me, I've bought two of them, one that it is nothing special and another that truly rocks.

Personally, I usually call them "C12K's"

What about CJ2K?


Edit: nevermind, he's the People's Halfback of Indeterminate Goodness