Thread: peoples hone of indeterminate grit(phig) I don't like this name.

While I agree this is a very gentlemanly forum. IMHO political correctness is part of what is wrong with many endeavors. While I absolutely do not condone being impolite, I also respect someones right to their opinion. I don't try to force mine down someones throat because I am "offended". Take things for what they are sometimes and have fun!
Best Regards,
Joe

Call it what you want. None of us has the ability to give it an "official" name.

I am going to continue calling it a PHIG or sometimes a C12K, or maybe occasionally a guanxi hone.

Here's one for you. I have a friend over in Hong Kong that sent me a finishing hone much like the "C12k" but with a more wood grain texture to it. It's different that the run of the mill Phigs and C12ks.

We call them Cnats. It finishers in the 12k range....

In favor of PHIG

I know it started as a joke when Utopian went on a rant, and Holli4prirating came up with it -BUT- PHIG also has become after quite a few people have tested them for straight razor use, a very good descriptor for these stones...

We can't get more exact because we don't have the info to do so, we know that there are several different types out there, some that are flat terrible finishers, some that are good, and some that are flat unbelievably smooth finishers... The slurry is different on many of them, the clear water scratch pattern is different, and the grit levels are different...

So with all those differences that we have found, I kinda have grown quite attached to the PHIG moniker as it lets new guys know right off the get go that these like other Natural stones are different ie: People's Hone of Indetermite Grit tells them that just because they are not getting good results while honing, it might not be just them, it actually could be the stone It also explains why some of us love them, and some hate them..

So yep I think I for one am sticking with the PHIG name at least until a grading process comes into effect.. Who knows someone might take these and start giving them fancy vein names and the price will skyrocket

The $475 "Silken Dragon Vein" Chinese slate hone could be the next big deal


ps: Yes that was sort of a joke

pps: I also didn't just pull this outta my hat here is another couple of threads about these hones

http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...nese-hone.html

Not only do I have to buy a PHIG next month; now I have to go and find this "Silken Dragon Vein" too !!

Originally Posted by SharpMan

Ok, the joke was nice. Now let's give it a proper name.

Sharpman

People are evil, and they won't just because of this thread

Well, if we are changing names, I'd like to request that you all type out "Belgian Blue/Yellow Coticule combination that's actually more like purplish on the blue side that barely any of us use except me, and isn't really a combination because if it was combined, well then I'd have a purple bunch of powder instead of a useable rock", when referring to my coti. Thank you for your consideration.

A rose by any other name....yadda yadda yadda..Why stir the koolaid man? It's not your koolaid...just drink it and be happy you found it. Call it purple drink if it makes you feel better..but I'm calling it koolaid.

I give you the:

CHWAA12k+



(The chinese hone woodcraft advertises as 12k+)

I personally think there is some jealousy that somebody can get fantastic results with a PHIG especially
from people who spent a little fortune on expensive hones........

Ahhhh, yes...been waiting on that one. Some expensive stones provide better edges some don't. They are naturals, you cannot ever forget about that variable.

The key is that usually once someone is up to the skill level to justify purchasing a more expensive stone, the "whatever stone" falls into the shadows of the more expensive stones like a quality JNAT, Escher, Thuringian, Charnley Forrest, Special Stone, and so on. They are more expensive because they ARE better for the most part.

"Whatever Stones" are great for what beginners are looking for: a natural finisher. As long as they understand that they are about to purchase & have read up on how to properly use a "whatever stone", then they feel that they have the best stone available...until their skills grow and pocket book has rebounded. Some are content with their stone and never move on...great for them. That's the best part of this sport...as long as it works for you, who cares what someone else thinks.