Thread: Identification of this hone.

Originally Posted by sidmind

I do not think that is a good stone. it would not work well for razors at all. can you please provide info as to who is selling it, so I can scold them for selling such junk.

and so I can buy it out from under you





J/K that looks like a very nice stone. I would jump on it all day long.

You evil, evil man!

British production so it was produce in britain that doesn't mean it was mined in britain we will have to see how easy it laps,the smell of the stone while lapping and the color in day light etc.

Question to Neil, maybe he can jump in:
Neil could this be a british greywacke which we discussed in another thread. How does it compare to the one you have listed or others you had in hand?
The pictures remember me more of a fine sandstone than either a slate.

Originally Posted by hatzicho

Question to Neil, maybe he can jump in:
Neil could this be a british greywacke which we discussed in another thread. How does it compare to the one you have listed or others you had in hand?
The pictures remember me more of a fine sandstone than either a slate.

It is quite a job to say anything definite with the stone in that condition - it really needs lapping - even a picture of it wet would help as it would then assume a more natural colour - all those scratches tend to make dark things look much lighter than they really are.

It could be greywacke, but I have only ever seen the razor-sharpening variety in thin (approx 25mm x 150mm) lengths.

I would guess that 'haze' is not a company name, but a property of the stone itself, i.e.: it gives a hazy shine rather than a mirror shine.

I would also think that 'British Production' means just that - the stone was procured in the British Isles and therefore is probably a hone-slate of some kind, which would tie in with the 'haze' finish.

The only time the origin of material was deliberately concealed or obfuscated to any great degree in Britain was during and just after WW2 - if the hone is from that era then perhaps Eleblu05 is correct. Watchmakers and silversmiths, as well as intaglio printmakers used two traditional stones that pre-date WW2 by a considerable period and which were referred to as 'blue polishing stone' and 'grey polishing stone' - they were said to be imported from Ratisbon and the blue type was almost definitely blue honing slate from the coticule layers. One would then think that the 'grey polishing stone' was some sort of thuringian type hone-slate, but confusingly the blue type was said to be finer than the grey type, so maybe the grey type was a greywacke of a not-so-fine nature.

After some time substitutes were found for both of these hones by the trade, but the names endured so I suspect they were substituted with British slates of the same colour. Today the names still endure in the catalogues of jewellers supply companies, but the hones themselves are now synthetic.

All of this is just conjecture though - until better pictures of the hone lapped, wet and slurried are available it is impossible to say.

Regards,
Neil

Here your chance, Win this auction and let me know if I missed out on a good deal

Beautiful Blue Green British Escher German Water Hone | eBay

Although it's allowed to start threads about items from a live auction, it's not really a smart move. I unliked your opening post.

I am not the seller nor am I going to bid for this item.

This is the message I sent to the seller: "Hi, Whatever it is, this hone is not an Escher, doesn't even look like a Thuringian hone. Buyer who finds out might give you negative feedback and claim their money back."

Never ceases to amaze me what B/S people try to make a quick buck.

I ended up winning this, as someone said it satisifies HAD for not too much. and a bit of a puzzle as to what it really is. For this price with the fact that it has the box and label. Which is my goal on all the hones I am keeping for my own collection, I think it will fit right in, I will update with the proper photos when it arrives.

Well good luck with it, the seller asked me for $125. Thats why I decided to ask for more pictures and post them here to be 100% sure.. Any way I just bough a cheap Thuringian Water Hone for £20. Let me know how you get on with the hone, I am still not sure what type of hone it is.