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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    The tomonagura will only scratch if it is too hard, if it is soft stone (as it should be) then no way it will scratch the base stone.
    So it's normal that the Tomo looks a little different as it's a softer stone?

    Here's a pic of my Shouby all lapped up w/the Tomo prepped...You can see how the Tomo is darker in color...I assume that's normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpcwon View Post
    So it's normal that the Tomo looks a little different as it's a softer stone?

    Here's a pic of my Shouby all lapped up w/the Tomo prepped...You can see how the Tomo is darker in color...I assume that's normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    the looks do not matter for the performance
    Gotcha; thanks mainaman!
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    My wakasa from Maksim was packaged with a noticeably darker/greyer suita slurry stone and everyone's been telling me it's fine, even though I keep getting light scratches every time the stone sticks and skips. "as long as the scratches are light, it's just cosmetic", is what I keep getting told. Seems a bit harder than the base stone, to which Maksim responded in email:
    Quote Originally Posted by JNS
    It is actually bit better when Tomo is bit harder then stone it self then you get slurry from the main stone only.
    Was hoping for a wakasa tomo, but oh well. Careful sculpting of the face and extra rounded and polished chamfers to minimize surface contact seems to reduce sticking and scratching, though when the stone is slightly damp (as while drying), the scratches are visible.
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    My Shuobudani Asagi arrived today, as well. Maksim's shipping is some of the fastest of any seller I've ever bought from. I was a little skeptical that it would even arrive until sometime next week, but three days was all it took! THREE DAYS FROM DENMARK TO TEXAS!

    Anyway, I lapped the stone flat and dressed all the edges. It's a super smooth stone, and I think it'll produce some great edges. I spent most of the day at another SRP member's (Shooter74743's) house doing some much needed honing, and at present, I don't have anything that even needs a touch-up. I'm sure I'll find some reason to run a razor across it in the next few days, though.

    In the pics, you can see the kanji before I started lapping it flat, along with the three nagura stones. My tomo is also not exactly the same as the base stone; it looks more yellow, but the slurry produced when using it is the same color as the base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierdaen View Post
    My wakasa from Maksim was packaged with a noticeably darker/greyer suita slurry stone and everyone's been telling me it's fine, even though I keep getting light scratches every time the stone sticks and skips. "as long as the scratches are light, it's just cosmetic", is what I keep getting told. Seems a bit harder than the base stone, to which Maksim responded in email:


    Was hoping for a wakasa tomo, but oh well. Careful sculpting of the face and extra rounded and polished chamfers to minimize surface contact seems to reduce sticking and scratching, though when the stone is slightly damp (as while drying), the scratches are visible.
    It's more than the Tomo Nagura being harder or softer, some just don't play well together...
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    Quote Originally Posted by myersn024 View Post
    My Shuobudani Asagi arrived today, as well. Maksim's shipping is some of the fastest of any seller I've ever bought from. I was a little skeptical that it would even arrive until sometime next week, but three days was all it took! THREE DAYS FROM DENMARK TO TEXAS!

    Anyway, I lapped the stone flat and dressed all the edges. It's a super smooth stone, and I think it'll produce some great edges. I spent most of the day at another SRP member's (Shooter74743's) house doing some much needed honing, and at present, I don't have anything that even needs a touch-up. I'm sure I'll find some reason to run a razor across it in the next few days, though.

    In the pics, you can see the kanji before I started lapping it flat, along with the three nagura stones. My tomo is also not exactly the same as the base stone; it looks more yellow, but the slurry produced when using it is the same color as the base.

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    Looks like a very nice stone as well! I wish there was some way to preserve the kanji on the base stone after lapping, but oh well (mine dissappeared)...
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    The only way that I can think of would be to lap the bottom side of the stone instead of the side with the stamps. However, the bottom side of my stone is pretty rough, and it would have taken a lot more time than it was worth to persure that endeavor.

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    Was just going to write wakasa on the back of mine and put enamel or something over it, but I need to find someone with nicer brush skills than me.

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    I usually recommend bit softer Nagura for very hard stones and bit harder nagura for softer stones like wakasa
    In many cases if you get same hardnes stones then they will scratch a lot, that is my experience anyway
    But all can be very different thats why many Japanese barbers had like 10 different tomo Naguras hehe

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    It's more than the Tomo Nagura being harder or softer, some just don't play well together...

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