Thread: Shuobudani type 100 from JNS?

Originally Posted by maxim207

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I usually recommend bit softer Nagura for very hard stones and bit harder nagura for softer stones like wakasa
In many cases if you get same hardnes stones then they will scratch a lot, that is my experience anyway
But all can be very different thats why many Japanese barbers had like 10 different tomo Naguras hehe

Good to know; Thanks Maksim!

I honed up an old Winchester razor earlier today using my Shouby and a Nagura progression. I wasn't sure what the end result would be since this was my first experience with Naguras, but I'm quite impressed with the edge that the razor took. I haven't shaved with it yet (probably won't happen until tomorrow morning), but all indications point toward a very nice edge. I'll be sure to report back after the shave. I may be singing a different tune after the shave tomorrow, but so far it seems that the stone with the Naguras is a very beginner-friendly JNAT.

Originally Posted by myersn024

I honed up an old Winchester razor earlier today using my Shouby and a Nagura progression. I wasn't sure what the end result would be since this was my first experience with Naguras, but I'm quite impressed with the edge that the razor took. I haven't shaved with it yet (probably won't happen until tomorrow morning), but all indications point toward a very nice edge. I'll be sure to report back after the shave. I may be singing a different tune after the shave tomorrow, but so far it seems that the stone with the Naguras is a very beginner-friendly JNAT.

Sounds like you're off to a great start! I won't get a chance to use mine until tomorrow, but will be sure to post my findings...

I like mine as a finisher a lot, I have used it with tomo slurry after 8k and 10-16k too, nice results both ways.

Well, I honed a Geneva Cutlery 6/8" today using both my coticule and the Shoubudani 100. Since the only nagura I have to work with are Mejiro and Tomo, I used the coticule to sort of "fill-in" the middle stages right after bevel set and before JNAT.

So I set the bevel on my Chosera 1k, then raised a milky slurry on the coticule. I did a series of circles & x-strokes with a few dliutions, until I was able to effortlessly cut arm hair. At this point the bevel looked like it was "cloudy" under magnification. I then jumped over to the Shoubudani & raised a milky slurry using the Mejiro nagura. After doing a set of x-strokes (about 40ish, until the slurry turned grey), I rinsed & refreshed the Mejiro slurry; this time I made it thinner. I repeated the set of 40 x-strokes, then rinsed the stone. At this point, it was time for the Tomonagura, so I raised a skim-milk slurry & did sets of 30 x-strokes, diluting with a fingertip of water each time. Right around now, I started to get some great feedback from the stone (sticking/resistance), so I stopped.

The HHT straight off the stone was a 2-3, then I stropped 50/100 suede/leather on my Kanayama. The HHT after stropping was a near-silent catch & pop, so that means that the edge should shave very well. Overall I am very encouraged by my results the first time using the JNAT! It is VERY easy to use, and provides great feedback. I will be sure to report back after I have a chance to shave with the edge I produced!

I wanted to update everyone as to my initial experiences with this stone. The Winchester razor that I honed a few days ago provided a quite nice shave. That particular razor has never given what I'd call an outstanding shave; it always leaves me a little raw, and this time was no exception however it was the best shave this razor has ever given. I finished this razor on water only, so it might benefit from finishing on a little Tomor slurry to tone down the edge.

The second razor that I tried was my Dubl Duck Lifetime Reaper. This razor was honed last week with the following progression: bevel set on Chosera 1k, Shapton 4k, 8k, 16k, and then finished on Shooter74743's Asagi. I decided that I'd just refinish this razor on my Asagi using a light Tomo slurry and working the slurry until the stone was almost dry. The edge on this razor is up there with one of the best that I've ever used. It was wickedly sharp and as smooth as glass. For a full hollow razor, she didn't do much singing this morning when I was shaving. I had to watch the sink for stubble as I rinsed the blade to make sure it was even cutting. My straight razor shaves only consist of one WTG pass, and right now I'm having trouble finding any stubble on my face even when rubbing ATG.

I'll admit that I was a little worried about using a JNAT for the first time since I'm still a relative noob when it comes to using slurry. My prior experiences have been with coticules, and all those experiments ended in failure. This stone has been almost too easy to use, thus far. I guess it has to do with having multiple slurry stones and each slurry doing a particular job. Also, the slurry breaks down over time, so you can only do so much work before having to move on to a fresh slurry with a different stone. So far I'm quite impressed; this stone is a definite keeper!

Congrats on a good result, I also found this stone very easy to achieve great results. I've been struggling with a Coticule for a long time and this stone gave me great results from the first time I used it. This stone never gave me a bad result but I always finish with a light slurry as water only feels like dragging the edge along the stone, using light slurry gives just enough lubrication and very smooth and sharp edges resulting in great shaves.

Congrats! I too am finding that this stone is very easy to use. I still love my coticules, but they have undoubtedly proven to be a bit more challenging to use in comparison to the JNAT. I have now touched up two razors on this stone using Mejiro and Tomo, and both razors shaved very well. Now that I have a complete set of nagura (botan, tenjyou and mejiro), I am eager to try doing a complete nagura progression on this stone. I'll be sure to let you know how I make out!

Very interesting. I am finding my Jnat to be a very steep learning curve. Where I learned my coticule in a day. Well back at it for me...

Originally Posted by suits123

Very interesting. I am finding my Jnat to be a very steep learning curve. Where I learned my coticule in a day. Well back at it for me...

But it will be worth it...