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    Since this thread has been resuscitated, has anyone actually seen Tarkus and Sharptonn at the same time in the same place?
    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post
    Hmmm - I have heard all this from Tarkus, too...

    Tarkus and Tom - separated at birth?

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    I had the same thoughts with the 30K (even though I sold mine a while back), MJC beat me to it. Thanks Tim for the pics, my honing mentor recommended magnification & it helps my pea brain to compute all that is going on with the steel.
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    A viable alternative is lapping film. It is very well graded, and consistent. I use it for polishing metallurgical samples, and honing research.[/QUOTE] from Tim.

    Tim, I use PSA lapping film on glass. The glass is dead flat and the tapes can be replaced when you think they need it. I posted my progression on another thread. 15 microns down to 0.3 micron. Then 0.1 micron iron-ox on balsa. It works for me. I don't recommend it or suggest it does a better job than another method. I'm also a tape fan for the final polish stropping on high grade gloss (after leather stropping)
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    Late to the party, but here's a thought that goes back to the original post: maybe the razor could have gone farther at some level in the early/mid stage.

    I say this because, as is clear, increasing the angle will get the edge onto the stone, and getting the edge onto the stone is exactly the reason that a bevel is fully set and each stone is "fully used" before moving on to the next. And I have found, as I'm sure many others have, that increasing the bevel angle on a razor that isn't quite there will allow you to "cheat" your way to a fully honed edge. (Personally, I always need more than 20 on the 8k, and while I don't know the details of the steel in that blade, my experience is that harder steels usually need more strokes, and I think 62 is on the hard side, right?)

    I don't mean the word cheat with any negative connotations, but it is, in my opinion, just a shortcut. Because now that razor must be touched up at that higher angle, or else it will have to go back down to whatever level is appropriate to get the edge there without the increase in angle.

    Now, I'm not really sure why anyone cares whether it's called a second bevel or a micro bevel or what have you, but I can say that, personally, if I am going to increase the honing angle, I would rather have a bevel, be it primary (with tape the whole way) or secondary (add tape at a later stage), that I can see. But this is because, as many have mentioned, seeing your edges can be a nice tool.

    Or, if you prefer a short version, I don't see this any differently than the to tape or not to tape discussion for general honing, because, really, it's the same thing but at a different stage.
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    The Loupe. Yeah, all true. Esp if you are old and half-blind like me!

    Tarkus is avoiding me...or is it Neil??
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    Quote Originally Posted by holli4pirating View Post
    Late to the party [...] I don't see this any differently than the to tape or not to tape discussion for general honing, because, really, it's the same thing but at a different stage.
    Jeez - at last: somebody who talks sense!

    And before Tim jumps in - its only razors...

    (or, as Sweeney Todd would have it - it's only razors,... and pies).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post

    (or, as Sweeney Todd would have it - it's only pies).

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    Tarkus eats pies with a spoon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post
    (or, as Sweeney Todd would have it - it's only razors,... and pies). Regards,Neil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post
    Hmmm - I have heard all this from Tarkus, too...

    Tarkus and Tom - separated at birth?

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    No Neil we weren't separated at birth however we are considering the oll Rosie Greer operation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WW243 View Post
    Since this thread has been resuscitated, has anyone actually seen Tarkus and Sharptonn at the same time in the same place?
    Working on it big guy. Har!!!

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    Tarkus eats pies with a spoon!
    Mmmmmmmm Pie!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    Tarkus eats pies with a spoon!
    Surely not, Tarkus is too smart for that!

    Pies?

    Spoons?

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    I bring you the Tarkus Pie-baked-on-a-spoon Spoon!

    Take 2 bottles into the shower...?

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