Thread: Honemeister at work

I am sorry I upset you...
That was not my intention.
I have no way of knowing what you have read and read not before.

Judjing by that algorithm you should asume I already knew you had an inflamable temper and I did this just to upset you...
That's not a correct way of thinking or treating people.

I just spent 30minutes of my life re reading the test and coments....again...came to the same conclusion.
..MC is a nice guy that makes great stuff...his technique may work for some people with moderate expectations...not my cup of tea...there are more civilised ways of dooing things...but hell to each his own...do what makes you happy...
Just dont make other people feel bad about trying to help.
...and mind that temper....I see you edited the post.

It didn't upset me at all. It was actually a treat for me as you'd say.

Where you are wrong is saying "may work" and "moderate expectations".

I read this as either you cannot achieve or do not want to achieve great results with a tweaked variation of this method. Dismissing it as uncivilized is quite the cop out blanket statement.

Reading the results of a single man's test is different from actually doing something. Do you believe everything you read no questions asked?


"...and mind that temper...." who are you again?





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You know what the stupid thing is...I started writing a reply to the person that started the thread.
Before I found the link...it took me a while as I have not read the whole story for some years...you got to post...and mine came straight after that...then your response.

So bad timing...
Aniway..to answer your question...
Nobody...i'm nobody.
Have a nice day!

If you're razors are nothing but a "tool", where the idea of wearing them down and eventually just tossing them is your thing, then his method is probably fine.

Would I take a pristine Wade & Butcher, or a Mappin Bros., Lancet Edge razor, a fine Tamahagane Japanese razor, or any other fine razors and perform that sharpening technique on them...not in a million years.

And his claim that tape, completely destroys the geometry of a razor has been debunked many times.

I was also taught to treat my tools with respect, and they in turn will provide me with years and years of service.

I can't see how "grinding" away at a razor the way he does shows much respect for the tool...but as always, if it works for him and others, fair enough.

But I can't just help but wonder, what would a virtually NOS vintage Sheffield blade look like when he was done with it...think there'd be some spine wear / damage???

Originally Posted by Phrank

"If you're razors are nothing but a "tool", where the idea of wearing them down and eventually just tossing them is your thing, then his method is probably fine."

This depends on how this method is utilized. In the original video he knocks the edge right off his razor and hones from the bottom up. I'll explain this further down.

"I was also taught to treat my tools with respect, and they in turn will provide me with years and years of service.

I can't see how "grinding" away at a razor the way he does shows much respect for the tool...but as always, if it works for him and others, fair enough."

I have seen conventional razor honers set a bevel "grind" with similar technique or a lower grit hone. That initial grind on the 1k is to set the bevel, not unlike what we all do before we start refining the edge.


"But I can't just help but wonder, what would a virtually NOS vintage Sheffield blade look like when he was done with it...think there'd be some spine wear / damage???"

If he went back to 1k every time he sharpened then it would unquestionably wear at a rate that far exceeds the conventional methods. He has stated he doesn't drop to 1k unless he needs to. So essentially he would be touching up on a 6k and newspaper or chromium oxide loaded strop. There are many people who touch up on pasted strops.

Just a few thoughts on your thoughts. Ymmv and all that fun pointless stuff we bicker about here.

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Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

"...and mind that temper...." who are you again?

Same question can be asked about you seeing how you are attacking anyone that does not agree with your views of Carter's method.

Lets calm down here and act in a civilized manner so that the thread can continue its existence.

Originally Posted by mainaman

Same question can be asked about you seeing how you are attacking anyone that does not agree with your views of Carter's method.

Lets calm down here and act in a civilized manner so that the thread can continue its existence.

I'm not attacking people. I'm simply voicing my opinions on the video like we all do. Mine however does not line up with most people and I don't sugar coat things..

I do not care what people use to hone their straight razors. That's up to them. I do however get sick of a world reknowned Canadian born knife maker being strung up and beat like a pinata because he's got different views then the razor community.

I guess you're a little late to the party because we already kissed and made up earlier in the thread.

I appreciate you looking out for the forum's best interest. That's what I love about SRP.

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Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

I do not care what people use to hone their straight razors. That's up to them. I do however get sick of a world reknowned Canadian born knife maker being strung up and beat like a pinata because he's got different views then the razor community.

Who is stringing him up? No one has brought him up to put him down as far as I remember, the guy is irrelevant in the razor honing circles, he is a knife maker and sharpener.

Here is some history which you may not be familiar with. Carter started making kamisori at one point, and gave up pretty fast when folks started complaining that they were not performing properly, that is a fact.

Someone from this forum posted and invitation to a razor meet, in a comment to one of Carter's honing videos, that member was banned and the post deleted. That is a fact. This was not a one sided affair. I am not sure if you were around when this topic was discussed here on the forum, but Carter would argue points that make no sense as far as razors are concerned.

I guess you're a little late to the party because we already kissed and made up earlier in the thread.

You went off on another member as well, and if you read carefully no one made up, most times it is just wiser to not bang one's head against the wall. The wall will not move no matter what.

I appreciate you looking out for the forum's best interest. That's what I love about SRP.

Thank you

Originally Posted by mainaman

Who is stringing him up?

Here is some history which you may not be familiar with. Carter started making kamisori at one point, and gave up pretty fast when folks started complaining that they were not performing properly, that is a fact.


This was not a one sided affair.

You went off on another member as well, and if you read carefully no one made up, most times it is just wiser to not bang one's head against the wall. The wall will not move no matter what.


Thank you

I could continue this argument but it has undoubtedly run it's course.

You could have just said that from the start instead of asking me to adjust my choice of words. We would have had quite a different conversation.

Anyways ill leave this here.


https://jendeindustries.wordpress.co...unding-debate/


And

http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...say-about.html

Incase you are generally interested in this topic.



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