Thread: My edges seem to be coming more harsh

Originally Posted by TristanLudlow

What stone and what amount of strokes are we talking here?

I did approximately 20 strokes on a g20 and about 50 on escher y/g. I screwed the pooch on not having enough slurry on the escher. Bokers are known to be chippy. Should have done 5-10 x on the g20 and the 50 with a dilution finish on the Escher. I have been slacking on spending time on honing razors.

Feel and knowledge. Its a perishable skill unfortunately. I have honed hundreds of razors on a LOT of stones. Thats a large part of the learning experience.

If I had used a heavier slurry on the Escher, it would have brought the fragile edge back to a nice convex semi-crisp shaving edge.

Originally Posted by Gasman

Well, I'm not really happy with what the bevel looks like but as we know, that only matters to a point. So this final pic is after the repairing of the edge and going thru the progression back up to 12K and stropping.
BTW, when on the 12K I did 8 laps, rinsed and did 8 more, rinsed then did 5 spine leading laps. When I went back and did a final 5 laps after the spine leading I noticed the undercutting of the edge was undercutting even more. So I'm guessing the spine leading strokes really does help in the end. (All laps were as lightly as I could manage).
Now a shave test.
Total time on this razor = 2hrs and 45 minutes.
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Any comments on this bevel? Should I have spent more time on the 5 and 8K?

This pic says a LOT. Notice how the scratch marks fron the previous stone are present. Stones 1, 2, &4k are the foundation to a quality shaving edge. Pay attention to "stiction", this is how you feel when the time is to move to the next stone.

That last picture sure shows some pitting right in the edge and bevel. To me you need to get to some better steel. Tc

Originally Posted by tcrideshd

That last picture sure shows some pitting right in the edge and bevel. To me you need to get to some better steel. Tc

I think that you are looking at the blade up side down Tc. Those pits are at the back of the bevel and should cause no problem.

Originally Posted by Gasman

Any comments on this bevel? Should I have spent more time on the 5 and 8K?

It's hard for me to say without knowing the magnification, but I think I would go to 3k to get a more uniform scratch pattern. It should not take much time now.

How wide is the bevel unmagnified? 1mm? .5mm?

There was still a tiny spot at the edge. So when i found another chip closer to the middle on the bleade i went back to the 2k and fixed it and at the same time took another bit of steal out. So fixed both. The pitting on this bevel is here and there and id have to take out more and more but in the end it would take way more than i should so ive found an area where im at now that still has pitting but its not on the edge. Still in the bevel but only 2 little spots and not bad.

Got to wait for more beard groth so i can test shave again. And ive finally got it thru my head that a mirror finsh on the bevel is not needed. Going to try and knock out a few more this weekend.

Also, i will use the usb BUT, it is only for checking for dings in the edge! If i was to look at everything i see wrong i feel its just more than really needs to be corrected. Its just to much detail for what really maters. Well, im hoping. Its all learning as when i pick up the loupe i cant see any of these things i see in the usb.

Time will tell if im right.

Again as a novice honer, I have found that pitting makes no difference so long as it is not on the edge. Also found that a tiny chip barely visible with my loupe made next to no difference in my shave. That is why I don't bother with higher magnifications provided by usb scopes. It would make an extremely minute chip seem like look like a major problem.

Bob

Just because you can see a distraction with high magnification, doesn't mean that you have to take it out. I prefer to see as much as I can in a reasonable amount of time and decide what I may just live with. YMMV

I agree with the high magnification distraction, some edges look scary and shave well. I've seen old pits or dings, couldn't feel them on the shave. It can be overkill, nothing beats the shave test.