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    I would say it will be... different. Particle shape and size is different, so you should expect to feel the difference on your face too. It is impossible to say whether “different” is good or bad for you, it depends on too many unknowns. You have to try it and see, there’s no other way.

    I only suggested the strop because you said you were looking for the same keenness but more mellow... and the strop does that IMO.

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    it really depends on who is using the 20K ive had several guys do a 12k edge and it was harsh, my hone guy uses the same stone and its smooth,, I use it and its smooth, as smooth as an natural ive had on my razors. I had the 20k, its smooth, but I do find that some razors start micro chipping at too high a grit, like the 30k shapton, I have one razor that takes it well the rest, meh it needs to go back some. stick with it Jerry, you just need to learn how to max out and refine the edge with the stone you have, just read Glens signature quote, it says it all. if your good with your stones I don't care which you have, synthetic or naturals, big name or bargain basement, if the stone is of razor quality you will get a great edge. its in the hands of the honer.

    also I agree if your stropping is dead on, it should mellow the keenness a little and smooth it out. guys like Glen can use a brick and give you a decent edge. Tc
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    Tc is spot on, it really is all down to the honer.

    Jerry. Try a few laps on CroOx to see if that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markbignosekelly View Post
    Tc is spot on, it really is all down to the honer.

    Jerry. Try a few laps on CroOx to see if that works.
    I like CroOx on a felt hanging strop "after" stropping the ell out of the blade on linen (40) and leather (100). I only go to a 12K Naniwa and it makes for a nice comfortable edge. My guess it might just do the same after a 20K hone.

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    You call that stropping the hell out of it Bob. Thats a standard for me. Ha. Now 400 to 500, were talking stroppin! Thanks for the replys guys. I will try some stropping olimpics and less on the 12k. Seporately of course and see what i get. And TC, your right that i havent spent enough time on the 20k yet. I was just thinking ahead. I do like a keen edge!
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    A few years back, I was trying a 1.2k > 6k > 13k Sigma Power progression. The resulting edge was feeling too harsh, so I would use a polished black hard Arkansas afterwards to calm it and obtain a very nice shave. At the time, I felt that the Arkansas was burnishing the edge, perhaps over-honed off the 13k, rather than advancing things. With further use of the Sigma hones, I realized that I had been leaving too much water standing on the surface with the 13k and that this was affecting things. When it was used in a dampened state, with little or no standing water, the resulting edge was quite nice with no need to turn to the Arkansas afterwards.

    Synths generally being softer than natural stones, I wonder if turning to a natural finishing stone afterwards to calm things may appear to improve things in that the natural stone is harder in comparison. If so, then the Arkansas, coticule, thuri could be serving the same function (not that they are equal in hardness), sort of like stropping or steeling a knife do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markbignosekelly View Post
    Tc is spot on, it really is all down to the honer.

    Jerry. Try a few laps on CroOx to see if that works.
    I’m with ocdshaver myself, soaps can make the world of difference! That aside, I always go a few laps now on the CroOx to give me that “smooth” that I like. Nom, nom.
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    I never come off the stones without a bit of CroOx and FeOx to calm the edge before going to leather. Shaving right off the stones is for some....
    Not for me. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    I never come off the stones without a bit of CroOx and FeOx to calm the edge before going to leather. Shaving right off the stones is for some....
    Not for me. JMO
    Dave is having a meet in WI and the theme is strops.

    https://straightrazorpalace.com/get-...l-meeting.html

    I know it is far for you but you should do a video chat with them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 32t View Post
    Dave is having a meet in WI and the theme is strops.

    https://straightrazorpalace.com/get-...l-meeting.html

    I know it is far for you but you should do a video chat with them!
    Video chat. Ha. You act like i know how this computer thing really works. Funny.
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