Thread: Bevel with a blue Belgian?

Hello, I'm very new at straight saving, but i do have a blue belgian/yellow Coticule 5-1.5 inche combo stone. And i was wondering if i could set a bevel on the blue which would be approx. 4000grit without a slurry? i have a matching combo slurry stone, i'm also wondering if i shouldn't mix the blue and yellow when making a slurry? I understand if you can set a bevel on the blue it would take a while?

Thanks,

Originally Posted by 111Nathaniel

Hello, I'm very new at straight saving, but i do have a blue belgian/yellow Coticule 5-1.5 inche combo stone. And i was wondering if i could set a bevel on the blue which would be approx. 4000grit without a slurry? i have a matching combo slurry stone, i'm also wondering if i shouldn't mix the blue and yellow when making a slurry? I understand if you can set a bevel on the blue it would take a while?

Thanks,

You understand it will take a while ? that is it.
this is the problem you will have.
if you have enough time go head set the bevel and move forward.gl

As Sham says, it'll take you some time! The BBW wont be any good if you need to do edge repair either as its probably too high a grit. I wouldnt use mine for that anyway!

Dont mix slurries though, match them to the stone you are using. What I've done a couple of times on my Coti/BBW combo is start with a heavy slurry on the coticule, then go to a medium slurry on the BBW, then a light slurry on the Coti and finally finish on water on the Coti. This works fairly well but it does take some time and the results arent always consistent due to the variability of diluting slurry by hand.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Thanks for your help.

The BBW is typically more coarse than a coticule, but it's also a slower cutter. I have played with mixing slurries, and found no ill effect provided the mix you do makes sense. Coti slurry works well on the BBW. It's also quite good when used on Nortons (adds to the speed and prevents them from loading as much). But, as with any slurry use, it's something you have to play with and figure out, and it won't be as reliable as hones used without slurries.

Stu's method is a good one. You can also substitute medium coti slurry for his medium BBW slurry if you want to remain on the coti.

FYI coticule.be will be releasing an article soon on how to hone a razor all the with through with just a BBW and tape.

I haven't tried this, I wasn't part of the group that tested the method around the world but from what I hear it works.

Food for thought.

Originally Posted by Disburden

FYI coticule.be will be releasing an article soon on how to hone a razor all the with through with just a BBW and tape..

I have no doubt that it can be done, my question would be why take that much time and effort. But then again we may learn something new.

on my combo coti i use the coti (yellow side ) from start to finnish heavy slurry to just with water

I see, kinda like an one stone honing? start to finish, i imagine that repairing chips wouldn't work well?

thanks

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

The BBW is typically more coarse than a coticule, but it's also a slower cutter. I have played with mixing slurries, and found no ill effect provided the mix you do makes sense. Coti slurry works well on the BBW. It's also quite good when used on Nortons (adds to the speed and prevents them from loading as much). But, as with any slurry use, it's something you have to play with and figure out, and it won't be as reliable as hones used without slurries.

Stu's method is a good one. You can also substitute medium coti slurry for his medium BBW slurry if you want to remain on the coti.

I don't have a lot of experience with natural slurries, but I often mix slurries on my Nortons and Kings. It often seems like it's more important to have a slurry there than exactly what grit the slurry is. Typically I rub my 1k with a 4k stone and it seems like the whole cutting action is enhanced and my 1k doesn't load up so fast. Then I rub the same 4k over my Chinese 12 and work that away. Works for me.