Thread: Why HHT is important or is not?

Originally Posted by Gammaray

Well said! Those of us with some science background really appreciate just how subjective the HHT can be unless ALL the variables are understood.



Nevertheless, until we come up with something better as a pre-shave assessment of sharpness, then it will have to do.

Have to do? I have come up with the definitive answer here! The Grand Unified Theorem of HHT! It has already been accepted into Nature.



James.

The absurdity of the HHT for anyone to use as a sharpness test who is not honing the razor, can be explained in these short statements from a new shaver over a few days time..

This is why I "Hate" the HHT because the wrong people use it..


1st post: First shave BTW

I've bought 2 razors. One has turned up the *******. I'm not confident it's "shave ready". It won't cut my face hair really, or pass HHT. I eithen got some hair and held it tight, didn't cut through that easily either.
Help

This post of course is followed by the normal "Who Honed it BS" and even a few explaining how to do a HHT and "It could be the hair is dry"

2nd post:

I touched up my shave an hour ago. Went better than the first shave. I think the razor could still be sharper though. If I'm still having problems in a week I may send it back and pay him to have a look at it.

EDIT: It is catching on my hairs, that may be the angle though, no?


Ahhh now we start seeing the realization that perhaps it is the guy in the mirror


3rd post: after being told the HHT varies from hair to hair

OK, just tried mine, the girlfriend's and our Son's. Mine "passed" theirs didn't

Hmmmmmm so those hairs make a difference "wow what a concept"

4th post: After being told to slow down and and do the easy parts first to learn how the razor handles (You know what Lynn has said for years on SRP) and to finish with your old system of shaving

OK, I did my cheeks and my moustache area. One nick (think it was a re-open of one already there) and quite a close shave. Finished my chin and neck with a disposable.

No razor burn and the alum block didn't hurt when I ran it over my face.


WHAT !!!! are you saying that all those hints and tips we put in the beginners section are correct???? No way really???


So as shown from just this Newbs experience, all with one razor, the HHT unless calibrated by the person honing the razor is what ????

Say it all together now "Useless"

Not sure but I bet if you search HHT you might just find that in a few of the 100's of HHT threads in fact it might be in here a few times

YEAH what he said!

Well Glen,I am devistated by your comments today,using my wifes hair I had reached a 3.989 and it is useless?((
My only option at this point is to commit sepeku,has been nice guys.

Well,

Today I finished my last HHT ever! My whole family is bold! No more hairs to test!!!! Wait, wait! My two months old son getting hairs:-) Just need to wait few more months:-) There is still hope to continue testing:-)

Guys, really... it is just a test, just read my first entry of this post.

pixelfixed, congrat on your 3.989 score. Soon you will move to F1 racing and use 3.989xxxxxxxxx :-)
Glen, thank you for contribution and post (quite long but nice reading :-)

Tell you how bad it can get ..... I went to a beauty supply that sells human hair wigs .... Almost bought what they call a "fall" for $150.00 to use for HHT.
I would have had enough to last me 100 years .... Too cheap though so I'll stick with the longer hairs out of my hairbrush.

The reality of the procedure is that the name should be changed to HHI,is an indicator.
Zero science involved so hardly a test.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

The reality of the procedure is that the name should be changed to HHI,is an indicator.
Zero science involved so hardly a test.

Some years back Randy suggested monofilament fishing line as a possible substitute for human hair. If that, or whatever material, could approximate the diameter, and characteristics , of the average human hair we would all be able to use the same thing, and there would be consistency in our 'tests.'

IIRC it was decided that monofilament was not a good substitute because it is smooth and continuous while a human hair, microscopically , is segmented and rather rough.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Some years back Randy suggested monofilament fishing line as a possible substitute for human hair. If that, or whatever material, could approximate the diameter, and characteristics , of the average human hair we would all be able to use the same thing, and there would be consistency in our 'tests.'

IIRC it was decided that monofilament was not a good substitute because it is smooth and continuous while a human hair, microscopically , is segmented and rather rough.

That Jim would be a great thing,Find some syn material with a known constant,than set up a scale,say one thru five,simple I think.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Some years back Randy suggested monofilament fishing line as a possible substitute for human hair. If that, or whatever material, could approximate the diameter, and characteristics , of the average human hair we would all be able to use the same thing, and there would be consistency in our 'tests.'

IIRC it was decided that monofilament was not a good substitute because it is smooth and continuous while a human hair, microscopically , is segmented and rather rough.

Well we're not going to find anything that is exactly like human hair and the same as all different hair on different people.
But why did the monofilament fishing line fail as a test substitute, a sharp edge will grab it fine.
A standardized rig with a standardized "hair" is what I would like, how else are we going to compare "sharpness"
and it must be something we all can get, set up and use.