Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 21 to 26 of 26
Like Tree26Likes

Thread: Escher makes edge worse after Norton 8k...why?

  1. #21
    what Dad calls me nun2sharp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Kansas city area USA
    Posts
    9,172
    Thanked: 1677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Zowada View Post
    I suggest lapping both your 8K and Escher.

    Lapping is not so much about keeping things flat, as it is about exposing fresh abrasive. I usually lap my Eschers with 2000 grit Silicon Carbide sand paper.

    Tim Z.
    But then again if the stone is dished how do you get a straight bevel? If the stone is dished the bevel will be convex, you end up with a "u" rather than a "v".

    BTW I do agree that the stone(s) may need lapped.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

  2. #22
    Loudmouth FiReSTaRT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Etobicoke, ON
    Posts
    7,171
    Thanked: 64

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    I wonder?????? 10 strokes on CroOX???????
    I doubt it... Chromium Oxide won't do much for an edge that's not there yet. Unless you have a proper bevel already set, anything finer than 4000 grit will take forever and a half to give you a proper edge and I have yet to hear of someone who set the bevel and got a shave-ready razor from scratch by using only pastes, regardless of the grit (could be proven wrong here lol). Generally speaking, for the sake of the argument let's assume we're using Norton products, 1000 is for setting the bevel, 4000 to finish setting it with a slower cutting rate and start polishing it, 8000 is already good enough for a final polish even though higher grits give a smoother shave.

    You shouldn't use chromium oxide until the edge is already shaving well and with a reasonable degree of comfort. The possibilities raised here are that the edge off the 8000 isn't as good as it should be, that one or both stones aren't flat enough and that the OP is creating a wire edge. We'll see what happens when the OP addresses all of those concerns, based on the excellent advice received here.
    sharptonn likes this.

  3. #23
    Razor Vulture sharptonn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Lone Star State
    Posts
    25,827
    Thanked: 8588

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT View Post
    I doubt it... Chromium Oxide won't do much for an edge that's not there yet. Unless you have a proper bevel already set, anything finer than 4000 grit will take forever and a half to give you a proper edge and I have yet to hear of someone who set the bevel and got a shave-ready razor from scratch by using only pastes, regardless of the grit (could be proven wrong here lol). Generally speaking, for the sake of the argument let's assume we're using Norton products, 1000 is for setting the bevel, 4000 to finish setting it with a slower cutting rate and start polishing it, 8000 is already good enough for a final polish even though higher grits give a smoother shave.

    You shouldn't use chromium oxide until the edge is already shaving well and with a reasonable degree of comfort. The possibilities raised here are that the edge off the 8000 isn't as good as it should be, that one or both stones aren't flat enough and that the OP is creating a wire edge. We'll see what happens when the OP addresses all of those concerns, based on the excellent advice received here.
    That was a joke! I am very interested in this thread. I do wonder what type of razor the OP is honing. It would seem much experience with slurry would be key to success with the Escher, as Lynn suggested, if indeed the razor was great off the 8000. It would seem the only way the edge would be made worse would be if too much slurry were used?
    FiReSTaRT likes this.

  4. #24
    Loudmouth FiReSTaRT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Etobicoke, ON
    Posts
    7,171
    Thanked: 64

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    That was a joke! I am very interested in this thread. I do wonder what type of razor the OP is honing. It would seem much experience with slurry would be key to success with the Escher, as Lynn suggested, if indeed the razor was great off the 8000. It would seem the only way the edge would be made worse would be if too much slurry were used?
    Lol now I see it. Was fuming mad (not at any SRP member) in the morning, so I was working in diminished capacity
    sharptonn likes this.

  5. #25
    Never a dull moment hoglahoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Tulsa, OK
    Posts
    8,922
    Thanked: 1501
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Are you sure your hone is an actual Escher

  6. #26
    Senior Member 111Nathaniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Newfoundland, Canada
    Posts
    266
    Thanked: 23

    Default

    Just a little thought, add a layer of tape after the 8000 then go to the Escher, to create a little tiny bevel to ween out the influence of the 8000. And to see exactly what your Escher gives the edge.

    just a thought that might reveal something...

    Nathaniel
    Lemur likes this.

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •